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Sundar was chosen following a series of failures by megalomaniacal executives Larry had appointed/approved to head various departments, including Andy Rubin, Tony Fadell, and Anthony Levandwoski. Sundar was a move in the opposite direction.
Don't forget Vic. It's somewhat amazing how many failed, some nearly sociopathic, almost-CEOs Google had.
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> Sundar was the right person for this role. Was he? What is the evidence that he succeeded? Or even had more positive influence than random decisions? Does google have consensus over what it’s doing? Or is Sundar specifically a “safe,” milquetoast CEO chosen to not show up previous CEOs. I don’t know Sundar, but it seems he was picked because google leadership assumed supremacy and thought that they just needed a st…
I think you have this exactly right. Sundar is like Neville Chamberlain. Maybe ok during peacetime. But now Google is at war, and needs a Churchill.
War is sort of the opposite of "business as usual." The normal rules are abandoned. You still have the same high level strategic objectives, but the tactics are radically changed.
I would love to see Google go to war. Wake me up when they figure out how to do that.
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You don’t have the full picture. You’re missing a lot of data > And the rank-and-file Googlers will defend this because they think they caught God by the ankles with their 150k/year salary That’s closer to their intern salaries. Total comp is more like double or more Much of the rank and file’s total compensation is also in stock Add to that if you wanted to, you can do the minimum and just coast. No one is going to…
> Add to that if you wanted to, you can do the minimum and just coast. "Coast" a.k.a. perform only the duties as agreed in your contract, without going above and beyond. A.k.a. "quiet quitting", or the preposterous idea that the company doesn't own the time they don't pay you for. I'm a somewhat long-time Googler and really dislike this anti-labour narrative.
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#505I simply don’t see what good this CEO has done. He’s destroyed googles reputation with developers. Destroyed customer trust in Google products. Done nothing to fix googles reputation for terrible customer service. Led Google to third place in cloud computing. AND been thrashed by Microsoft / ChatGPT, putting Googles core business at risk. Why is this guy CEO?
Sundar became CEO at a time when Google needed a leader who could build consensus across different product areas. Sundar was the right person for this role. Unfortunately Sundar is also relatively weak at setting a bold vision to ensure the company continues to grow and innovate, as Larry had done. So under Sundar the company has slowly shifted from being innovative to being very risk averse, incentivising not making…
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I know some retired CEOs, and they are not very busy.
Oh, I don't. Definitely don't envy their lives, after working with them. They all keep working from the few I know, it's a certain kind of person. Almost a curse. Even with hundreds of millions. One is doing django alongside me almost 12hr/day... lol... I know some retired policemen/public workers and they're doing handsomely. Went hunting one time and this guy was decked out, asked him "what do you do?!" Turns out h…
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Lol, you can spend plenty of time on what you want without millions .. come on! Especially if you have a cozy 200k 40hr/wk 6 weeks of vacation blah blah blah gig
I don't have a cozy 200k 40hr/wk 6 weeks of vacation gig. Would be nice! I'm at about a sixth of that myself, on much longer hours, but I don't work at Google. But even if I did, it wouldn't let me retire within 5 years and still have enough money to live comfortably for the rest of my life, work on whatever I feel like without ever worrying about making money from it, put my kids through university, buy a house next…
At the current pace of savings and earnings I won’t be able to retire in the next 25years, whilst mentally I am already ready to retire to do all the things you listed and more. Sometimes I wonder if it wouldn’t be better to just go for it and start living the life as if I had all the millions laying around and making the most out of my relatively healthy body. But I’m afraid it would be quite stressful to burn through savings and be forced to go back to a corporate job all over again…
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I'm very happy, because my wife is a wonderful person and I love my family, and that's what matters most. Wish we could provide our kids with their own bedroom, but still, life is good. But sorry, wait, that has nothing to do with what we are talking about. I was answering why money, despite not being everything, enables one to spend their time much more freely, and I would gladly invest a few years playing CEO of Al…
For all intents and purposes you likely have more free time than the CEO. No one sane wants the responsibility: that's why it's so valuable. It's not evil. Glad you're counting you're blessings, now you can stop worrying about CEOs!
The fact that most of the CEOs are still working after receiving such a compensation package shows their different mindset which is probably essential to becoming a CEO in the first place… personally I’d gladly take 1/100th of that and never have to worry about money ever again. Doesn’t mean I would stop working. I’d just stop working for money trying to hack my way into early retirement which probably won’t come anyways.
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From what I observe Google Photos is quite popular. It's from 2015.
The creation of Google Photos was basically an act of mutiny by David Lieb. He kept getting told to stop working on it and he kept doing it anyway. Eventually resorting to back-channeling to Larry in order to get him to champion the project. He tells the story in an episode of the podcast "The Social Radars." Pretty good listen.
By G+ leadership - Vic Gundotra.
Re: Sundar Pichai received $226M compensation, boosted by a triennial stock grant
#510I simply don’t see what good this CEO has done. He’s destroyed googles reputation with developers. Destroyed customer trust in Google products. Done nothing to fix googles reputation for terrible customer service. Led Google to third place in cloud computing. AND been thrashed by Microsoft / ChatGPT, putting Googles core business at risk. Why is this guy CEO?
GPT-4 can pass the Amazon Interview in a few minutes. Perhaps having a good reputation with developers won't be as important in the upcoming years.