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Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

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Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

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I had considered buying a Tesla, but didn't because the infrastructure isn't good enough yet where I live. But now, no, my next car will be an EV from any other manufacturer. I had no idea that Teslas had the ability to send video back to the company.

How do you think they were training their self driving system?

Not by recording videos of people doing their laundry while the car is off and and parked.

Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

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Musk was not a founder. He might have been an early investor but he didn't found the company. Stop lying with your fucking propaganda. I hope Musk bought you a pony for your bullshit. You are a musk shill. Stop trying to rewrite history you shill.

You can't attack fellow users like this on HN. I've banned the account.

No one is saying you owe $billionaire better but you certainly owe this community much better if you're participating here.

If you don't want to be banned, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com and give us reason to believe that you'll follow the rules in the future. They're here: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.

Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

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Musk was not a founder. He might have been an early investor but he didn't found the company. Stop lying with your fucking propaganda. I hope Musk bought you a pony for your bullshit. You are a musk shill. Stop trying to rewrite history you shill.

Musk is a founder in literally every sense of the word. He joined the company early, was a key investor, designed early products, and had a major leadership role (chairman of the board and then CEO) - from the start. In addition, the matter has been adjudicated in a court of law - Musk is a founder. The company Tesla recognizes him as a founder. Against the overwhelming and undisputed evidence and common sense you ha…

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Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

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You guys buy premium car and then seal the interior components with tape here an there?!

So much worse than that, because they go online and simp for the company after doing it

Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar. This thread was bad enough already but a comment like this is an obvious degradation. We want the opposite here.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

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So much worse than that, because they go online and simp for the company after doing it

"Stop making fun of my favorite billion dollar company. I just gave them 80k of my hard earned cash, therefore it must be good, and you should also buy it."

Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Edit: We've had to ask you this many times before. I don't want to ban you but if you keep breaking HN's rules we are going to have to. We've cut you a ton of slack already; it's not infinite, so please fix this.

Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

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It sounds like he was an influential early investor, but the situation you've described isn't what I would typically think of as "founding" a company. I'm surely not alone in this, thus the present debate. This isn't to diminish Musk's huge influence either; but folks tend not to love when the meanings of words are changed for PR.

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Attacking other users like this on HN is completely unacceptable. If you do it again we will ban you.

I'm not going to ban you right now because when I looked through your recent history I didn't see a lot of other comments breaking the site guidelines. That is the difference between your account and the other account, which I did ban.*

Please avoid flamewar comments in the future generally, as well. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. We've had to warn you about this at least once before.

If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here, we'd appreciate it.

* Lest anyone is worried, that difference has nothing to do with agreeing more with one user than the other—we couldn't care less about this flamewar topic. It has only to do with the difference in comment histories.

Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

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It’s not on unless you turn it on. Also: black tape is a thing.

Accepting that privacy intrusion is the default state and putting the onus on users to individually combat it will lead us to some very dark places.

This is untrue, it's absolutely opt in.

Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

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Yikes. So turning private images into memes and posting them internally isn't a fireable offence but union talk is? Such impeccable standards for conduct.

The kind of nonsense described in this story is exactly what I'd expect from an early stage software startup back in the early '00s, when I was first getting started (not in SV, mind). It was common to mock people and create memes for any reason (the Basecamp "foreign sounding name" kerfuffle very much reminds me of this). This kind of culture was unacceptable back then, of course, but the founders and owners were li…

> What completely boggles my mind is that, some 20 years later, this kind of culture is still happening.

Why? Do you feel human nature has evolved in the span of 20 years? Or more money in the industry begets professionalism?

Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

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It's not victim blaming. They opted in to this when they bought a Tesla; the privacy policy clearly allows Tesla staff to access all data the car generates. It's available to anyone to review before purchase. If you don't want it, don't buy a Tesla.

It is victim blaming. No reasonable person can keep up with all the privacy notices in their life. Did you read your cars privacy notices? How about your email? Your phone? Your kids school website? What about the terms and conditions for all of them? By the way, the Tesla privacy notice specifically says "no one but you would have knowledge of your activities, location, or history" but this article proves that's a l…

> Did you read your cars privacy notices? How about your email? Your phone? Your kids school website? What about the terms and conditions for all of them?

Yes. This is why I physically removed the GSM radio from my car, host my own email, use an outbound firewall on my computer, and don't have an OpenAI account.

The terms matter. Clicking past them as if they don't exist isn't a reasonable action.

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