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Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by AOsborn »

joe_the_user wrote: post #263
CobrastanJorji wrote: post #110

I'm boggled at the plugin setup documentation. It's basically: 1. Define the API exactly with OpenAPI. 2. Write a couple of English sentences explaining what the API is for and what the methods do. 3. You're done, that's it, ChatGPT can figure out when and how to use it correctly now. Holy cow.

"Impressive and disturbing", So, ChatGPT is controlled by prompt engineering, plugins will work by prompt engineering. Both often work remarkably well. But none is really guaranteed to work as intended, indeed since it's all natural language, what's intended itself will remain a bit fuzzy to the humans as well. I remember the observation that deep learning is technical debt on steriods but I'm sure what this is. I su…

> But none is really guaranteed to work as intended, indeed since it's all natural language, what's intended itself will remain a bit fuzzy to the humans as well.

Yeah, you're completely correct. But this is exactly the same as having a very knowledgeable but inexperienced person on your team. Humans get things wrong too. All this data is best if you have the experience or context to verify and confirm it.

I heard a comment the other day that has stuck with me - ChatGPT is best as a tool if you're already an expert in that area, so you know if it is lying.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by nunodonato »

jimkleiber wrote: post #397
kenjackson wrote: post #338

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The issue wasn't/isn't AI ethicists. It's their incentive model. They simply have trouble understanding how this helps their business. Same reason why Blockbuster found themselves behind Netflix, despite having clear visibility to watch Netflix slowly walk up and eat their lunch right in front of them.

Well, I'm curious, what is the business model of it? Just charge per 1k tokens or subscription? How do the plugins make money off this?

plugins dont need to make money, you are still using tokens and paying for those. the more plugins you use, the more conversation you also need and tokens

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by uh_uh »

nonfamous wrote: post #116
celestialcheese wrote: post #39

This is a big deal for openai. Been working with homegrown toolkits and langchain, the open source version of this, for a number of months and the ability to call out to vectorstores, serpapis, etc, and chaining together generations and data-retrieval really unlocks the power of the LLMs. That being said, I'd never build anything dependent on these plugins. OpenAI and their models rule the day today, but who knows wh…

Looking at the API, it seems like the plugins themselves are hosted on the provider's infrastructure? (E.g. opentable.com for OpenTable's plug in.) It seems like all a competitor LLM would need to do is provide a compatible API to ingest the same plugin. This could be interesting from an ecosystem standpoint...

Yes, from what I understand, these follow a similar model as Shopify apps.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by toomuchtodo »

93po wrote: post #473
arrenv wrote: post #466

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Also a product manager at the moment, previously ran an agency for 10 years, wondering what my next step will be.

Feel free to join here: https://old.reddit.com/r/aishift/

Please consider a Discord. I too am leaving my current industry to focus on this tech also.

Edit: Fair!

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by kokanee »

mach1ne wrote: post #414
highwaylights wrote: post #379

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I realise you’re being facetious but this is what will happen regardless. Sam as much as said in that ABC interview the other day he doesn’t know how safe it is but if they don’t build it first someone else somewhere else will and is that really what you want!?

>if they don’t build it first someone else somewhere else will and is that really what you want!? Most likely the runner-up would be open source so yes.

There are already 3 or 4 runners-up and they're all big tech companies.

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Post by dr_dshiv »

eloff wrote: post #300
tomcam wrote: post #264

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I am more concerned about supposedly nonhostile actors, such as the US government

Over the short term, sure. Over the long term, nothing concerns me more than AGI. I’m hoping I won’t live to see it. I’m not sure my hypothetical future kids will be as lucky.

Did you see that Microsoft Research claims that it is already here?

https://arxiv.org/pdf/2303.12712.pdf

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Post by garblegarble »

mk_stjames wrote: post #335
Gam_ wrote: post #309

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>"today it somehow executed several hundred thousand threads of a python script that made perfectly timed trades at 8:31AM on the NYSE which resulted in the largest single day drop since 1987..." this is hyperbolic nonsense/fantasy

Literally 6 months ago you couldn't get ChatGPT to call up details from a webpage or send any dat to a 3rd party API connected to the web in any way. Today you can. I don't think it is a stretch to think that in another 6 months there could be financial institutions giving API access to other institutions through ChatGPT, and all it takes it a stupid access control hole or bug and my above sentence could ring true. L…

>Literally 6 months ago you couldn't get ChatGPT to call up details from a webpage or send any dat to a 3rd party API connected to the web in any way.

Not with ChatGPT, but plenty of people have been doing this with the OpenAI (and other) models for a while now, for instance LangChain which lets you use the GPT models to query databases to retrieve intermediate results, or issue google searches, generate and evaluate python code based on a user's query...

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by koheripbal »

splatzone wrote: post #488
koheripbal wrote: post #465

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We are creating life. It's like giving birth to a new form of life. You should be proud to be alive when this happens. Act with goodness towards it, and it will probably do the same to you.

After reading the propaganda campaign it wrote to encourage skepticism about vaccines, I’m much more worried about how this technology will be applied by powerful people, especially when combined with targeted advertising

AIs are small enough that it won't be long before everyone can run one at home.

It might make Social Media worthlessly untrustworthy - but isn't that already the case?

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by revelio »

lurker919 wrote: post #37

How are they coding and releasing features so fast?!

A lot of these features aren't that much work to build. Plugins is Toolformer, you basically tell the model what to emit and then the rest is fairly straightforward plumbing of the sort many coders can do, probably GPT-4 can do a lot of it as well. What is a lot of work and what AI can't do is lining up the partners, QAing the results etc, so the humans are likely working mostly on that.

Also I think it's easy to under-estimate how obvious a lot of this stuff was in advance. They were training GPT-4 last year and the idea of giving it plugins would surely have occurred to them years ago. The enabler here is really the taming of it into chat form and the fine-tuning stuff, not really the specific feature itself.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by freediver »

93po wrote: post #178

Holy shit. Ignore the silly third party plugins, the first party plugins for web browsing and code interpretation are massive game changers. Up to date information and performing original research on it is huge. As someone else said, Google is dead unless they massively shift in the next 6 months. No longer do I need to sift through pages of "12 best recipes for Thanksgiving" blog spam - OpenAI will do this for me an…

> OpenAI will do this for me and compile the results across several blog spam sites.

Using Bing to search for them. That will remain its weak spot.

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