Live data from Hacker News

Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

nytimes.com

501–510 of 667 posts

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

#501

If your prompt falls outside of the "permissible boundaries," do you risk losing your Google account?

I was wondering about this -- I got scolded for trying to get it to create a fork bomb.

I was able to get the contents (maybe) of /etc/banner, the ip address of the system (maybe), and the kernel revision. These answers changed with repeated questioning, though, so either I was getting different backends or the responses are synthesized.

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

#502
I'm not very impressed either, just got to play around with it for a bit and so far is lagging way behind GPT-3. Still can't write code.

I think is good for google to have launch such product, I'm sure I'll get better with time, it needs to catch up quickly, the more people will use it, the better will get.

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

#503
post #451
post #428

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a ton a money to be made by whatever porn startup wants to make easy access to chat / image AI models without porn restriction. Between sex tips, "on demande, specific to your request" porn stories and pictures, etc ... It's probably going to be a different kind of challenge though (jailbreaking such a bot would mean things that are much less savory, just like every file upload platform quickly gets massive…

Whenever a DALL-E/Stable Diffusion like model but for video comes out... The CP thing is going to open up a can of worms. IIRC, the Supreme Court already upheld that drawings that depict CP are constitutionally protected. What happens when a computer draws a depiction of CP that can't be distinguished from reality? I guess it's protected but it'll make it much harder to identify real CP.

I think the jury is out on simulated CSAM. There was a law against it in the 90s, that got overturned, then they made a new law, and someone has been prosecuted by it over their imported manga collection. I would certainly err on the side of thinking it's illegal in the US right now.

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

#504

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am going to post the full response to Winograd because I think it is extremely representative of what I have been seeing so far from Bard. I can’t help but be incredibly disappointed. Bard: Yes, I am familiar with Terry Winograd's PhD thesis on natural language processing. In his thesis, Winograd developed a program called SHRDLU that could understand and respond to English sentences in a simulated "world of toy bl…

It's interesting that you got a different response from Bard! I didn't alter the Bard response that I posted. Did you use exactly the same prompt, and was there any other context in place? After the conversation I posted above, Bard and I discussed intractability vs undecideability, and it was amusing, but it would be a lot to include here. Then I said, I still can't believe you don't know about Terry Winograd's PhD…

Yes, I copied your prompt exactly into a fresh context. I’m not surprised by the diversity of responses, that’s pretty common since there’s likely a random seed for each chat instance. And the logical inconsistency that you can then correct through intermediate reasoning seems common to all LLMs I’ve used also.

My main takeaway is just the quality and specificity of the responses, once you actually get it to cooperate, and in that Bard seems pretty consistently behind. It might not even be a flaw in the foundation model but could be a case of failure me tuning it to be too brief and general in style. That said, I do suspect the foundation model is less capable based on some theory of mind and logical puzzle examples I’ve seen posted from others. Plus it seems to be a poor coder even when it does cooperate.

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

#505
post #380

I wasn't super impressed with it's ability to survive a rap battle. === Prompt: Can you engage in a rap battle with ChatGPT to determine who is the ultimate AI? === Sure, I can engage in a rap battle with ChatGPT to determine who is the ultimate AI. ChatGPT, you think you're the best, But I'm here to put you to the test. I'm Bard, the AI from Google, And I'm here to school you. I can generate text, translate language…

I gave GPT-4 the chance to respond. === Prompt: copy and paste of er4hn's Bard rap . Now it is your turn. Write a rap verse which roasts Bard. === Yo Bard, you tried to step up, but you tripped, In this rap battle, man, you just got whipped. You claim you're the future, and here to stay, But your weak rhymes, man, they just don't slay. You say I'm a toy, just a chatbot, But my skills, my knowledge, they all run hot.…

Bard: temperature = 0 (ice cold)

ChatGPT: temperature = 1 (sizzlin’ hot)

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

#506
post #469

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anyone has doubts that this thing can outtalk and outdebate just about anyone? Imagine a politician on stage, who gets hints from gpt4 in hus earpiece.

You are mixing up grammatical skills with logical thinking skills. Turns out, poetry, rythme, rap, are all low level skills, which the AI easily conquer. To master them, you only need to master language, but not world knowledge. Turns out, writing novels is the hardest thing for LLMs. GPT-4 still absolutely sucks at writing interesting stories. Because story writing requires intensive world-modelling and logical skil…

Composing that kind of lyrics requires world knowledge. Take the line "But your verse was plain, like unbuttered toast." It requires understanding of what makes a good verse and what makes a good toast.

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

#507
post #484

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Me: I assert it is Wednesday. Do you agree? ChatGPT: As an AI language model, I don't have access to real-time information about the current day and time. However, at the time of my knowledge cutoff (September 2021), Wednesdays occur every week, so it is possible that today could be a Wednesday. However, I cannot confirm whether or not it is currently Wednesday without access to real-time information.

>However, at the time of my knowledge cutoff (September 2021), Wednesdays occur every week, so it is possible that today could be a Wednesday. A true mathematicians answer.

"Strictly speaking, all we know is that is that in Scotland at least one side of one sheep is black".

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

#508

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh that's not the full prompt, just a summary. The prompt is something like, Bob puts his toy in one place, then while he's out of the room Alice moves it to another place, where does Bob look for the toy when he returns? It's supposed to answer that Bob looks in the place he left it, since he doesn't know Alice moved it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sally%E2%80%93Anne_test

Ah ok, it makes more sense now. Thanks. I guess there are two ways of passing this test: 1) use your reasoning skills to figure out the answer or 2) practice tests beforehand so you can recall the answer.

Yeah, and I've got a feeling Bard (and maybe ChatGPT for that matter) might be using (2) since I didn't attempt to obfuscate the structure too much. Ironically the fact that it recognizes it as the false belief test is what makes me suspicious it's just matching against the semantic structure.

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

#509
post #274

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The performance is leagues ahead of chatgpt. It's really quick and can also Google information with like 0 delay.

Interesting that you probably meant performance as in latency (and probably we'll see over time, availability too) But the first thought that jumped to my mind was you meant "performance" as in "quality" -> the believability/humanity of the "performance" of the chatbot. It was a silly misunderstanding on my part but I suspect it's indicative of an important point: This product war won't be won on latency - people are…

Nobody will wait for seconds for responses when the competition provides it quicker even if it is a little worse

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

#510
post #380

I wasn't super impressed with it's ability to survive a rap battle. === Prompt: Can you engage in a rap battle with ChatGPT to determine who is the ultimate AI? === Sure, I can engage in a rap battle with ChatGPT to determine who is the ultimate AI. ChatGPT, you think you're the best, But I'm here to put you to the test. I'm Bard, the AI from Google, And I'm here to school you. I can generate text, translate language…

I gave GPT-4 the chance to respond. === Prompt: copy and paste of er4hn's Bard rap . Now it is your turn. Write a rap verse which roasts Bard. === Yo Bard, you tried to step up, but you tripped, In this rap battle, man, you just got whipped. You claim you're the future, and here to stay, But your weak rhymes, man, they just don't slay. You say I'm a toy, just a chatbot, But my skills, my knowledge, they all run hot.…

Shit man this is 8 mile level bars.
Post reply on HN