as a vegan, my only gripe with beyond meat products are the prices. If it was cheaper I'd eat a lot more
Beyond Meat is struggling, and the plant-based meat industry worries
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The idea that processing determines the healthfulness of a foodstuff is fallacious.
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Depends on fruit/vegetable. Some have nutrients that are easily destroyed by heat, but some have nutrients that are easier absorbed after light heating, or problematic compounds removed during cooking.
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Err, vegetables require less land per calorie than meat for consumption does. https://ourworldindata.org/land-use-diets So your comment makes no sense at all.
Which would be very compelling if your body only needed calories to survive. Meat is the most efficient way to deliver proteins and essential amino acids. You should also dig into the concept of bioavailability.
This is debunked. Tofu is incredibly protein dense - on par or surpassing chicken breast. Without looking it up and subjectively, tofu also seems to be digested very easily. There’s also seitan and the beans. Nuts also exist but have fat/protein ratios that tend toward uncomfortably high. (If what your eating has macros that approach the fat content in nuts to other nutrients that’s pretty high and should be noted.)
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#505I married a vegan, and I eat a lot of vegetarian food. (I also still eat plenty of meat, just not every day.) One extremely frustrating aspect of plant meat is that they tried to aggressively push out traditional veggie burgers on restaurant menus. A familiar refrain I've heard in restaurants in the last few years is "we used to have a nice veggie patty, but they replaced it with the beyond/incredible/whatever patty.…
I disagree. I much prefer a Beyond pattie to more traditional veggie options. It is quite literally a matter of taste though, so you aren't wrong, but your perspective is just your own.
Same here, I don't care either way whether it's trying to taste like meat or not - I've had too many tasteless, dry bean burgers that any alternative is welcome
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Not to say this is your moral prerogative but it's pretty simple: Eat only hand-picked fruit. It's by far the least death-causing food out there and it's offered to you by the tree to eat. I'm not a vegetarian or fruitarian, I don't generally care about animal death or suffering. But if I did that would be my tactic to minimize pain in the system.
If you did that you would become extremely unhealthy. Veganism has the caveat "as far as is practicable", and a fruitarian diet is not practicable for extended periods of time as you will become malnourished.
And probably at least pre-diabetic.
The form of sugar in fruit isn’t quite as bad as some, and all the fiber helps it be absorbed more slowly but there is still a lot of it many.
An apple has a much sugar as 6oz of Coke. Lots of nutrients too, but 23g of sugar is… a lot.
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#507So now we will get catastrophic articles about meat trying to sell plant-based meat as alternative.
This "we have problem, so consume this..." pattern in all kind topics is obvious "divide and conquer". Especially when politics come in.
I'm curious when anti-plant-meaters will became enemies of the planet.
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Err, vegetables require less land per calorie than meat for consumption does. https://ourworldindata.org/land-use-diets So your comment makes no sense at all.
Which would be very compelling if your body only needed calories to survive. Meat is the most efficient way to deliver proteins and essential amino acids. You should also dig into the concept of bioavailability.
Your comment is obviously (to me) someone who hasn't explored any other diet except meat eating (feel free to dispute). There are many people thriving on a vegan diet.
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You'd be surprised how many animals die in the process of scaled agriculture and displacement that occurs to create these replacement goods. But they're not the big fluffy animals we anthropomorphise, so it's easy to accept.
https://ourworldindata.org/land-use-diets If everyone were to switch to a vegan diet, global agriculture land use would be reduced by 75%.
Water and pesticide usage is way more problematic than land usage.
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#510This post is crowded with responses from people explaining why they hate Beyond meat FWIW, I've always liked Beyond Meat as a "good enough" substitution for a beef burger that's easy to prepare that is close in texture to a real burger - if you use a burger sauce and cheese like most recipes for non-vegans do, it tastes pretty close. I even liked it so much I'd order it at restaurants wherever available and bought a…
> sodium content is as bad or worse than just plain regular beef
Hasn't the dietary sodium thing been found to be a non-issue, except for a few individuals with high blood pressure?
https://www.cochrane.org/CD004022/HTN_effect-low-salt-diet-b...