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Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by phpisthebest »

minimaxir wrote: post #5

The price 100% was $20/mo as previously reported by journalists until Twitter dunked on it, and Elon's interpretation of the backlash is "the price is too high" and not "any price makes no sense at all." This pricing clarification is most likely due to Stephen King's complaint: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1587312517679878144 > We need to pay the bills somehow! Twitter cannot rely entirely on advertisers. How…

if you only proof the price was $20 is because "journalists" reported it as so then I question your ability to critical think and judge facts because "journalists" report false things every day all day

there is little to no evidence it was ever really $20, and even less evidence that Elon's mind was changed by Stephen King of all people... Who care what Stephen King thinks?

More likely it was always going to be $8

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by soulofmischief »

Karrot_Kream wrote: post #473
soulofmischief wrote: post #403

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Each and every one of these arguments seem to be forgetting the fact that $8/mo is a ton of money in some areas, prohibitively so, and this policy is exclusive of such journalists, users etc. Blue checks should never be pay to play. They weren't designed that way. The problem is the ambiguity of the blue check leads to arbitrage that it seems all parties are interested in cashing in on. If Twitter is our modern Greek…

> We should ask ourselves if we should be placing Twitter's financial needs over the social and intellectual needs of humanity as a whole. 25% of US Adults produce 97% of tweets on Twitter. 75% of Twitter users don't post a single tweet per month. 42% of Twitter users that produce https://www.pewresearch.org/internet/2021/11/15/1-the-views-... for all the stats

This is normal for a community. These statistics naturally fall in line with the Pareto Principle, and the concept of the vital few. [0]

> Twitter has nothing to do with "humanity as a whole". It's obvious that the group that uses Twitter is niche yet highly engaged.

You are confusing posting on Twitter with using it. The vast majority are lurkers who still consume information and then regurgitate that information in real life on other platforms. The statistics you provided don't paint an accurate picture of the "usefulness" of Twitter in modern public discourse.

Do you have a better popular example of a modern day forum?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_principle

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by slimebot80 »

arkades wrote: post #445
paxys wrote: post #322

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's the core problem with this approach. Elon and others have the idea in their head that Twitter is a social graph where people come to interact with each other, and everyone is relatively equal. So every user paying $X/mo to solidify their place in the graph makes some conceptual sense. In reality Twitter is more akin to YouTube than Facebook. A tiny percentage of users are creators while the vast majority are c…

Stephen King’s tweet on that topic, to summarize: “ $20 a month to keep my blue check? Fuck that, they should pay me. If that gets instituted, I’m gone like Enron.” https://twitter.com/stephenking/status/1587042605627490304?s...

Totally right.

And Musk's answer was to offer $8/m

King wasn't talking about paying anything

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by oneeyedpigeon »

xtracto wrote: post #335
paxys wrote: post #322

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's the core problem with this approach. Elon and others have the idea in their head that Twitter is a social graph where people come to interact with each other, and everyone is relatively equal. So every user paying $X/mo to solidify their place in the graph makes some conceptual sense. In reality Twitter is more akin to YouTube than Facebook. A tiny percentage of users are creators while the vast majority are c…

I always felt Twitter as "old man yells at cloud" kind of communication. I've never seen proper "content" created (like pinterest, tik tok, etc). Most of the "content" I see are the asinine multi-post threads and text-pictures notices from angry people/companies.

I guess it depends on what kind of content you're looking for. One account I follow tweets what amounts to live reviews of video games (often obscure) with video clips and images. I think that's just as 'proper' as anything I've seen on pinterest or tiktok.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by Fomite »

rodgerd wrote: post #250
memish wrote: post #161

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I can see how you think that if you're not familiar with how blue checks are awarded and what they mean to the nobility class of Twitter.

"The nobility class". What an absolute clownish take.

But very possibly the type of clownish take Musk is trying to monitize by charging for access to it.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by oneeyedpigeon »

Karrot_Kream wrote: post #473
soulofmischief wrote: post #403

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Each and every one of these arguments seem to be forgetting the fact that $8/mo is a ton of money in some areas, prohibitively so, and this policy is exclusive of such journalists, users etc. Blue checks should never be pay to play. They weren't designed that way. The problem is the ambiguity of the blue check leads to arbitrage that it seems all parties are interested in cashing in on. If Twitter is our modern Greek…

> We should ask ourselves if we should be placing Twitter's financial needs over the social and intellectual needs of humanity as a whole. 25% of US Adults produce 97% of tweets on Twitter. 75% of Twitter users don't post a single tweet per month. 42% of Twitter users that produce https://www.pewresearch.org/internet/2021/11/15/1-the-views-... for all the stats

> 75% of Twitter users don't post a single tweet per month.

75% of actual users or 75% of user accounts? I'm guessing the latter since the former is impossible to count. I'm almost surprised it's not higher — I think I have 5 twitter accounts and I definitely haven't posted from 4 of those for way over a month.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by memish »

arkades wrote: post #445
paxys wrote: post #322

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's the core problem with this approach. Elon and others have the idea in their head that Twitter is a social graph where people come to interact with each other, and everyone is relatively equal. So every user paying $X/mo to solidify their place in the graph makes some conceptual sense. In reality Twitter is more akin to YouTube than Facebook. A tiny percentage of users are creators while the vast majority are c…

Stephen King’s tweet on that topic, to summarize: “ $20 a month to keep my blue check? Fuck that, they should pay me. If that gets instituted, I’m gone like Enron.” https://twitter.com/stephenking/status/1587042605627490304?s...

The idea that someone who is addicted to Twitter and worth $500M would leave because they lose their special Blue Check over $20 is hilarious.

He's just butt hurt because the VIP room and symbol is being opened to the proles. Now any schlub with $8 can have the once exclusive symbol.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by slimebot80 »

oska wrote: post #448
enumjorge wrote: post #395

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To your point here's a tweet from Stephen King that was making the rounds where he protests the idea that he should be paying Twitter instead of the reverse: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1587312517679878144

Where does Stephen King go if he's not on twitter ? (Genuine question, not rhetorical)

He's got a dedicated audience reading millions of his books.

Quite a lot of his twitter presence is reactions to the decline in America and America's politics. Musk would probably prefer King's voice quietened.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by soulofmischief »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #449
soulofmischief wrote: post #403

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Each and every one of these arguments seem to be forgetting the fact that $8/mo is a ton of money in some areas, prohibitively so, and this policy is exclusive of such journalists, users etc. Blue checks should never be pay to play. They weren't designed that way. The problem is the ambiguity of the blue check leads to arbitrage that it seems all parties are interested in cashing in on. If Twitter is our modern Greek…

> Each and every one of these arguments seem to be forgetting the fact that $8/mo is a ton of money in some areas, prohibitively so, and this policy is exclusive of such journalists, users etc. And those areas don't proportionally don't matter to Twitter. Even so, the very next tweet by Musk , in reply to the linked one, says: > Price adjusted by country proportionate to purchasing power parity So that addresses this…

I understand that Twitter doesn't care about poor minority areas. I agree. I already addressed the parity tweet in my above comment so regarding your question about Twitter being a modern forum, I'd ask you if there are some better popular examples of the digital equivalent of a public, outdoor area where social activity, meetings, debates and more are conducted.
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