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Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staff’s code, workers said

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Re: Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staff’s code, workers said

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Its not stupid because he knows and trusts his engineers at Tesla. He knows nobody at Twitter. Hes probably trying to get an understanding of whats going on without relying on a bunch of employees who might not like him. It takes a while to build an employee base you trust, certainly in his situation.

I believe you’re missing the point. Random code reviews performed by people in a whole different sector aren’t the best way to find out “what’s going on”.

We don't know who they people he brought over are. It's doubtful that they are people who've never done anything but write code for Tesla. Were I in Elon's shoes, I could easily imagine digging up some employees with prior relevant experience and asking them to just browse through the codebase and give a rough appraisal of how tight it is. You can tell a lot by looking at basic things like coding standards, state of source control, development environment, testing strategies, what kind of code reviews are happening, how modular the code base is, what the service architecture looks like, etc. I've worked in a number of industries and good code and tight systems look different from bad code and sloppy systems. He's probably not looking for anything specific, but rather to get some understanding of the state of engineering there.

Re: Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staff’s code, workers said

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I dunno why any Twitter engineers would be really trying that hard right now. Passively destroying Twitter from within by not trying, and trying to make a billionare lose 44 billion dollars is a significantly more fun and interesting challenge than making Twitter a better product.

Because they don't have a union so they were excluded from all the big-boy negotiations at the sale, and they've no way to resist the demands of their bosses. They can put up, or shut up. Or just complain pathetically.

Or they can join a competing social network.

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For a variety of performance car nerd related reasons, I’ve not paid too much attention to Tesla. But iirc, there have been a couple threads here and elsewhere about Tesla making “expedient” choices in Eng, with a lot of horrible bodges around critical components. It definitely left me with an impression that Tesla was a place with low engineering quality — though again, I have no source at hand here, and don’t feel…

Tesla Model S owner here. The software on iOS and car is several years ahead of the competition. It embarrasses luxury German automakers. It’s made with the user in mind, it is elegant, and it is innovative in many surprising ways. For balance, there have been bugs - the linking of key fobs to driver profiles has always been glitchy, and Tesla’s decision to use an inadequate eMMC chip was shortsighted given the volum…

I drive a Mercedes and Apple CarPlay works fantastic (Tesla’s driving OS would probably be a sidegrade at best). And I get all the fit and finish of a Mercedes instead of Tesla..

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I'd be pissed off if I were a TSLA stock owner. Is Twitter paying Tesla to contract out these employees for their work? Otherwise, it's tons of thousands of dollars Tesla is pissing away on behalf of the CEO's side-hustle.

Maybe it’s an opportunity to spot Twitter employees who could be adding more value working at Tesla instead?

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Can you elaborate on this argument? I don't really understand his companies as "well built" in any reasonable sense that I can identify. "His companies make him and many of his investors wealthy" sure, no disagreement from me. But "well built" is a different metric, and I think that's highly arguable.

Well for one, they actually achieve meaningful change in the world. Half the people here work for companies that do nothing but steal my latest PII from my grandma’s contact list “yes share contacts with recipe app” to sell me ads. I have 3 cars in my garages right now that only exist because he pushed EVs. I have a boat with starlink. The dude has done more to improve my life than any of the FAANG jerkoffs, and I’m…

You don’t think these companies have produced meaningful change? They’ve meaningfully changed the world far far more than Musk companies. Clearly you are a fan of the Musk companies more, but who cares?

Re: Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staff’s code, workers said

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I think people are looking at this the wrong way. It's not so much about the code as it is about establishing an authority. Musk takeover is often regarded as banditry and I wouldn't be surprised if the employees didn't take him seriously in the beginning. This is his way of saying, "I don't trust you, I don't know what you have been up to but things are going to be different so better get used to it." Using Tesla en…

Only incompetent managers (and executives) think that "authority" is interchangeable with "respect". Fortunately for Musk, incompetence rarely disqualifies billionaires from anything.

I'm not a fanboy, and there are many things you could call Elon Musk, but incompetent isn't credibly one of them.
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