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Kanye West is buying Parler

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Re: Kanye West is buying Parler

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"Great Minds Discuss Ideas. Average Minds Discuss Events. Small Minds Discuss People." I feel there's already disproportionate discussion here about a person and their cult of personality here. This doesn't feel quite in the spirit of HN. Even during the Elon Musk Twitter debacles there was still separate threads about the business dynamics and whether he is playing some kind of 4D chess. The attempts to quickly disc…

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Re: Kanye West is buying Parler

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It's sad because to become successful Kanye had to ignore hundreds/thousands of important people telling him he wasnt good enough and he would never make it as a rapper. Then he became, arguably, the most popular rapper/hip hop artist of all time. Now image you've done what seems impossible despite countless people telling you it wont work out. You are in the top 1% of fame. Now someone tells you your other ideas are…

From this perspective - my intuition is that the likelihood a Kanye West led Parler will be successful is substantially greater than that a rap career will be successful. In some sense West is moving on to more plausible investments as he gets older. West has had success as an entertainer and as a businessman - I believe he has a successful shoe company. He's famous. If he thinks he can take on Parler, that seems lik…

I don't know if I think it's likely he can make a success out of Parler. That's a very tall order. But I definitely think he's got a better shot at it than whoever has run it to date.

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This is really a story about a celebrity's mental illness and public breakdown. If you haven't been following the news, West has spent the week saying increasingly unhinged things, not just about politics but about Pete Davidson, his wife, and (if I'm remembering right) his kids and the fake actor children that have been installed in his former home to corrupt them. He was interviewed for a show on Fox and a big chun…

Do you think there would be same level of uproar if he decided to donate x millions to blm all of a sudden?

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He believes his kids friends are "professional actors" who were placed there to "sexualize" them, that The Gap knew about the Uvalde shooting before it happened, and that Pete Davidson slept with his wife through the mechinations of an international Jewish conspiracy. You're doing the same thing Fox did: quoting the least unhinged things and pretending the most unhinged things didn't get said. And, as I'm sure will h…

> He believes his kids friends are "professional actors" who were placed there to "sexualize" them

Considering the way the entertainment industry in America uses kids, this is one of the least insane things Kanye has said. Anybody with sense would try to keep their kids away from the entertainment industry, who groom children to be products without regard for their welfare. How many former child actors need to go crazy before you notice the pattern?

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Call me cynical, but I think the likes of Kanye, the Kardashians, Trump, even Elon, etc. are much more calculated than they are deranged. They know how to work the media and manipulate the public better than anyone else. We're living in a world now where journalists are paid by click counts more than quality of content. In the same vein, Kanye and the likes know that the more absurdist and unconventional their action…

Maybe the current media environment selects individuals that just happen to do well in such an environment. People that crave attention and are just naturally gifted at attracting it. Basically "effective narcissists".

I think this is it. The environment enables the behaviour and the CAUSE of said behaviour can be multiple things separately or at once. The right kind of deranged combined with the right kind of stupid? Maybe that works. Completely manipulative and not deranged at all? Maybe that works too.

Re: Kanye West is buying Parler

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It's Fox News. I don't think they have any ethical care whatsoever.

Oh, I'm sort of aware of that reputation (of Fox News), but I just read 'Carlson', not a name I know.

There's some interesting footage of Tucker Carlson exposing the way Fox operates, from a decade before he became the main guy doing it for them. Very weird to watch:

https://youtu.be/RNineSEoxjQ

Why Tucker Carlson Pretends to Hate Elites

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> I just wouldn't ever be in that situation That seems to me to be impossible to say with certainty.

Short of something fundamentally changing my personality, I'm absolutely certain that I would never do the things he does.

>Short of something fundamentally changing my personality,

Something like... a mental illness?

Re: Kanye West is buying Parler

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I disagree. There are limits to what ideas constitute free speech in many modern countries. As an extreme example, an idea that puts forward genocide as acceptable form of action should never be allowed under "free speech", even if it's said with nice words. This and other examples are ruled under law in many developed countries.

Then it's not free speech. The whole point is that there are not restrictions. If it's restricted, it is by definition not free. "Free speech" is a cool buzzword people think they can qualify for (or wish to), without the ramifications of true free speech (hurt feelings, bad ideologies being discussed in a positive light).

There are two definitions of free speech going around the internet discussion boards these days it seems. One is the legal one that has existed in our country since it was penned in the constitution, which protects you from government opression from publicly held opinions. That doesn't mean you can say whatever and expect no recourse from anyone, you have no protections from being kicked out of a private place or fired from your employer under this law, just that the State will not put you in jail or kill you over these words like other states around the world do for words. The other view is that you are allowed to say whatever you like on platforms like twitter and should not be banned. It has nothing to do with twitter. Twitter is not part of the State. People making it about twitter are missing the significance of the first amendment and what society looks like in places without protections on speech and religion from the State.
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