Having said that, in the last year or so I noticed Teams is more stable and provides a better user experience. Or, perhaps, it's just me being succesful at lowering my original expectations.
Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?
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Re: Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?
#502Long ago Microsoft had MSN Messenger, which was one of the leading messaging apps. It worked well, and many 'normal' users were using it. Then Microsoft dissolved the team behind it and screwed up the product so bad with bloatware and ads that everyone moved to WhatsApp (except in the US where people went back to texting). Then Microsoft came out with Communicator, renamed it to Lync, which was a corporate messenger/…
"Skype for Business" was just a rebranded Lync. Consumer-land skype remained a different thing until Microsoft killed that for Teams. Skype for Business' exe was lync.exe right up until the end. "Teams" was a brand new thing and didn't use the Communicator/Lync/Skype for Business architecture.
Re: Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?
#503My 2 cents of venting on this sorry excuse of software - Backtick formatting in a chat post only works after typing the closing backtick, deleting it, re-typing it - Text copied from a conversation is polluted with names and time stamps. "I really want this feature" said nobody ever - The mute/unmute button is hard to find, I don't think I've ever attended a Teams meeting without someone struggling with this. Teams s…
I'll add more: - Fries CPU and GPU on video calls, making it difficult to use other applications or demo when screensharing - Interacts unfavourably with at least some WiFi drivers leading to unidirectional and bidirectional losses of connectivity - Copy and paste randomly break so you can't copy content from Teams or paste anything into it; applies to both text and images - Doesn't honour setting not to automaticall…
- eats your battery like nothing else. Got charge? Not if teams has anything to do about it. Discord does more, at better quality and doesn't eat that much power.
- has some bizarre interaction with the volume slider: clicking it mutes just the teams call, but sliding the volume controls alters the volume level of the whole computer. Why?
- cuts off the sides of video, because it defaults to "fit video", so too bad to anyone sitting at the side of the camera, no way to change the setting, so you have to change it by. hand. for. every. video. feed. every. single. call.
- insists on continuing to send you notifications for that re-occuring marketing meeting you were in once, 6 months ago, but notifications for the link your teammates posted in the chat of the call you are currently in, are apparently not worthy of delivery.
- inexplicably defaults to using non-native notifications (on Mac OS), not sure why they felt the need to BYO awful notification system on an OS that has one built in, but it's awful.
Re: Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?
#504My 2 cents of venting on this sorry excuse of software - Backtick formatting in a chat post only works after typing the closing backtick, deleting it, re-typing it - Text copied from a conversation is polluted with names and time stamps. "I really want this feature" said nobody ever - The mute/unmute button is hard to find, I don't think I've ever attended a Teams meeting without someone struggling with this. Teams s…
My favorite one is that when someone "likes" or use whatever "emotion" on your message, even if you are currently taking to the person, you need to click "activity" page in order to clear that notification and then come back
Re: Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?
#505Re: Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?
#506My 2 cents of venting on this sorry excuse of software - Backtick formatting in a chat post only works after typing the closing backtick, deleting it, re-typing it - Text copied from a conversation is polluted with names and time stamps. "I really want this feature" said nobody ever - The mute/unmute button is hard to find, I don't think I've ever attended a Teams meeting without someone struggling with this. Teams s…
I'll add more: - Fries CPU and GPU on video calls, making it difficult to use other applications or demo when screensharing - Interacts unfavourably with at least some WiFi drivers leading to unidirectional and bidirectional losses of connectivity - Copy and paste randomly break so you can't copy content from Teams or paste anything into it; applies to both text and images - Doesn't honour setting not to automaticall…
Re: Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?
#507Teams doesn't have to be good to succeed. It just has to exist. It's not even very important how good it is. Given it exists, IT will make everyone use it on Microsoft's behalf regardless of how bad it is. Or another way to look at it is that the real customers for Teams are IT departments. It makes their lives easier because they don't have to do anything and it meets all the compliance requirements they are suppose…
Refused to use windows for rest of career after that.
Re: Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?
#508Teams doesn't have to be good to succeed. It just has to exist. It's not even very important how good it is. Given it exists, IT will make everyone use it on Microsoft's behalf regardless of how bad it is. Or another way to look at it is that the real customers for Teams are IT departments. It makes their lives easier because they don't have to do anything and it meets all the compliance requirements they are suppose…
There are a bunch of regulations these days. GDPR is just one of them. A lot of tools are just not compliant.
IT departments have to take those into account. Especially at public companies.
Microsoft does a good job at that and tends to make it easy for the IT departments, too
Re: Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?
#509On linux, Microsoft teams will change your system sound settings to match its preference. This includes Bluetooth headphones no longer being available to the system. Then, it decides the system settings are beneath it and will only use its own device settings. And it will decide now that your fancy Bluetooth headset is gone, there is also no need for that crappy internal microphone either, so enjoy not having any mic…
Install Microsoft Edge for Linux and use the web version through that. Really, it's a great solution. I've done it for a while. I don't use edge for anything else but it runs teams.microsoft.com great
Re: Ask HN: Why is Microsoft Teams still so bad?
#510Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'll add more: - Fries CPU and GPU on video calls, making it difficult to use other applications or demo when screensharing - Interacts unfavourably with at least some WiFi drivers leading to unidirectional and bidirectional losses of connectivity - Copy and paste randomly break so you can't copy content from Teams or paste anything into it; applies to both text and images - Doesn't honour setting not to automaticall…
Here's some more: - eats your battery like nothing else. Got charge? Not if teams has anything to do about it. Discord does more, at better quality and doesn't eat that much power. - has some bizarre interaction with the volume slider: clicking it mutes just the teams call, but sliding the volume controls alters the volume level of the whole computer. Why? - cuts off the sides of video, because it defaults to "fit vi…
this is the same in skype. i never even knew it's a thing until i right clicked on the video feed. this is some microsoft fetish ux from hell.