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Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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> we have plenty of N95’s in supply. We also have KN95s for kids.

Are they buying Chinese masks for the kids? Or is there an American "for kids" N95 standard that creates a name collision with the Chinese KN95 standard?

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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post #367

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Correct. I know several people who are vaccinated yet caught Covid twice. The principle thing to keep in mind, - vaccination is a risk reducer on severity of infection. Nobody said immunity; nobody said prevention. - and on that point not getting into the hospital is important. From a management standpoint, we've got to insure demand for hospital resources does not dwarf those same resources. That's the key managemen…

> Nobody said immunity; nobody said prevention. What on earth? Yes they did, all along. December 2020: > Fauci Predicts U.S. Could See Signs Of Herd Immunity By Late March Or Early April https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/1... > "I would say 50% would have to get vaccinated before you start to see an impact," Fauci said. "But I would say 75 to 85% would have to get vaccinated if you want to ha…

It's amazing how we can rewrite history so fast. The number of times I see on Twitter people from different countries saying the same things, first it was "nobody ever said this vaccine will be 90% efficient against getting covid", then "nobody ever said the vaccine reduce transmission", and now it's "the vaccines have always be only to reduce ICU stays".

(I am vaccinated btw)

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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But what about weddings? Church? Hospitals? Even during the lockdown, a family friend of mine needed to go to a hospital for an unrelated issue, and that's when a nurse from there passed COVID19 to him. Then he passed COVID19 to his father. He was 35, no kids, didn't work in an office. Still got COVID19 and spread it with deadly results. Etc. etc. Church, Weddings, Thanksgiving / Christmas / New Years, Birthday parti…

Hospitals can be unavoidable if you're unlucky and get hurt. Grocery stores, too, but you can minimize your trips. But the other ones? Totally voluntary and avoidable. The public health guidance around COVID has been atrocious, even as scientists learn more about how the disease spreads indoors. We're going to probably need to change our "indoor event" focused culture if we want to have any hope of getting this behin…

The thing is you can't stop it. So that leaves the question, should we stop all social gatherings for the foreseeable future and lock ourselves in our homes?

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Surely this is the end of the pandemic? With an estimated 300k+ cases per day here in the UK, that is 10 million this month on top of everyone who has already had it. It’s as though nobody is ready to acknowledge the elephant in the room that Covid is nearly finished. Or am I missing something?

The pandemic will truly end when therapeutics are mature. My liberal relatives become visibly upset when just the concept of therapeutics is brought up. Thanks liberal dogma/media…

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Don't forget about long covid. My covid infection was mostly gone in 3 days; yet 7 days after that I'm in the ER for peripheral neuropathy. Several days later I am still here with perhaps permanent loss of function. There are a few other youngsters like me with covid complications on the neurology floor, most with less than 2 comorbidities. Oh yea, the ER was packed, 6h to triage.

Were you vaccinated when you caught it? Hope your body recovers over time friend.

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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It’s terrible to feel terrible, but getting over the worst part of Covid in 3 days is an enormous improvement from how unvaccinated people fared in the initial waves. Even for people not hospitalized, they dealt with pneumonia and shortness of breath for weeks. I think we can celebrate the progress we are making in reducing the average severity of this disease and there are more tools coming soon with Pfizer’s new pi…

Yeah absolutely, I count ourselves reasonably lucky that we only caught the disease after vaccinations. I have absolutely non-zero desire to go through this every year, unlike my parent commenter though. Would I be of a similar opinion as parent if I had a similarly asymptomatic-to-mild case? I don't know for sure, but I would hope not, because I wouldn't want to draw conclusions or base policy from just my anecdotal…

Your parent commenter wasn't saying that they have a desire to get this every year, just that if the worst case outcome is getting what they had every year, they would find that an acceptable trade-off for getting society back to normal.

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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post #367

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Correct. I know several people who are vaccinated yet caught Covid twice. The principle thing to keep in mind, - vaccination is a risk reducer on severity of infection. Nobody said immunity; nobody said prevention. - and on that point not getting into the hospital is important. From a management standpoint, we've got to insure demand for hospital resources does not dwarf those same resources. That's the key managemen…

> Nobody said immunity; nobody said prevention. What on earth? Yes they did, all along. December 2020: > Fauci Predicts U.S. Could See Signs Of Herd Immunity By Late March Or Early April https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/1... > "I would say 50% would have to get vaccinated before you start to see an impact," Fauci said. "But I would say 75 to 85% would have to get vaccinated if you want to ha…

Almost all Covid related predictions have been incorrect, and the ones that seem correct, are only so at the surface level and require mental gymnastics. The pathology of the disease simply isn't well understood at this point, and the new mutations make it a moving target. I don't personally like Fauci, but he is a victim of being conscripted as the Chief Covid Prognosticator by the media. It's a fundamental misunderstanding of science to believe a person can give guarantees on an emerging pathogen like that.

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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post #107

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Our savior Omicron. The ultimate vaccinator. Nature finally had mercy on us.

i wonder what countries like China and New Zealand who are taking a zero COVID approach are going to do. COVID is endemic in the rest of the world except for those places where it doesn't exist at all? I don't see that working.

New Zealand isn't doing Covid Zero any more since October.

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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post #495

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Omicron isn't significantly more contagious than Delta for the unvaccinated, however. It's just that the vaccinated can spread omicron, so anyone who wasn't vaccinated and managed to dodge infection for this long is now in nightmare-level difficulty when it comes to remaining uninfected.

Omicron appears to be significantly more contagious than Delta for everyone including the unvaccinated. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2...

There's a preprint for a study of 12,000 households in Denmark that seems to offer evidence to the contrary[1]. Take my earlier claim with a grain of salt, I'm not an epidemiologist, but this is what an epidemiologist told me.

> Surprisingly, we observed no significant difference between the SAR of Omicron versus Delta among unvaccinated individuals (Table 3). This indicates that the increased transmissibility of the Omicron VOC primarily can be ascribed to immune evasion rather than an inherent increase in the basic transmissibility. If this observation can be confirmed by independent studies, it has important ramifications for the understanding of the current challenges for control of the epidemic

[1] https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.27.21268278v...

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