Moreover, they are more related to a specific type of search query, that likely a result of broad based ranking algorithms that loosely are the most efficient ranking system.
Search engines and SEO spam
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Because, years ago, linking to lower reputation sites would drain your page rank. So everyone worried about SEO became afraid to link to anything except: 1) Their own website 2) High reputation sites like NYTimes, etc. It's sad. Makes it harder to navigate the web.
Bang on. Saying that "there isn't anything out there anymore" is missing the point: Google's algorithms created this situation , intentionally or not. Before Google, people linked to what they wanted and communities would naturally cluster around topics of interest. Google came in and made reputation into a currency which effectively destroyed all these communities through incentivizing selfishness.
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You only need ~1/10000th of Google's revenue to be a financially successful startup. 1/1000th and you'll have a great business, and at 1/100th you'll be somewhere between a unicorn and a decacorn.
sure, but you'd need a better search engine if people are going to pay for it. A company with an objectively superior search engine could make even more money with ads so now you’re back to the beginning
An “objectively superior” search engine, from an end user’s perspective, might have to make engineering choices that come at the expense of ad revenue.
But we’re all just talking hypothesis, it’d be cool to see someone launch a startup to get some answers.
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Different, but not better. The incentives to game the algo remain. People adapt to the environment.
> The incentives to game the algo remain. People adapt to the environment. Perhaps it could work if the algorithm changed its algorithm all the time.
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Why has blogs and articles stopped linking to things? I'm reading a restaurant review site, and they won't link to the restaurant. The chef name is a link to a list of all articles tagged with the chefs name, rather a wikipedia link or something useful that can tell me who that person is.
Average websites goal is now to keep you on them as long as possible. According to some metric folks, the longer you stay on a website the more money you spend there. Linking to another website destroys that metric. Also if you are going to make a purchase somewhere, any website would try to get a cut of the money you spend by actually sending referral links to the product. So small websites that do not allow this se…
That is really sad. Metric folks inventing metrics for the sake of metrics, which dubiously correlates to profitability of the company.
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#507This is already happening for a bunch of verticals: Travel - Expedia, Hotels.com, Kayak, etc. Consumer Goods - Amazon, WalMart, EBay, Etsy, etc. Automobile Purchase - Cars.com, Autotrader, etc. Career/Job - Indeed, LinkedIn, etc. As Google continues to lose search volume on these big revenue categories it is going to make spam much more difficult as they are working to sort out long tail spam. Way harder.
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#508I think the complaints about SEO spam are valid - but - I think msweibel and pg misdiagnose the challenge. The challenge is that you are dealing with an adversarial system, and, the better your search engine is, the more widely used it becomes, the more valuable it is for your adversaries to find ways to game your rankings. Any new niche search engine will go through a small window of time where they have the luxury…
The main motivation to SEO crappy content seems to be ads and affiliates links. What if you take the motivation away to SEO crappy content by deprioritizing sides that contain ads or affiliate links? Of course Google would never do this, but someone else could.
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Only if implemented by the monopolist. People's best chance is stopping using Google and pushing for it to be broken-up.
I wonder if punishing presence of advertisements would filter out most pages that are SEO'd to the max and instead promote "labors of love" type pages.
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#510IF anyone wants to see a demo please email me.