Making a blind guess for the 1st day ban, did author use someone else's photos?
Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech
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#502Earlier quoted context omitted.
> if you're in north America, take heart that its not your fault! The American dating market is absolute garbage. What do you mean?
People can't handle truth and I'd rather not be downvoted to oblivion. Suffice to say, the american dating market is heavily geared towards attractive white men over 6 ft tall. They better also be a millionaire if you're in the bay area. I'd suggest traveling like I have to southeast Asia, Europe and latin America for extended periods of time and see for yourself.
That’s interesting. I wonder how much that applies to South Asians though. I think most of the dating advice in these threads is tailored towards white people who have different experiences from other POC.
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#503Earlier quoted context omitted.
To save someone a click, so there is a study indicating 40% of couples “met online” (so via Twitter, IG, HN, Reddit, gaming, WhatsApp groups, etc., not necessarily dating apps); and then a study specifically about online dating apps where most participants were recruited online (in addition to the usual selection bias) so I didn’t bother checking results. Both are US-centric.
>To save someone a click, And yet you admit >I didn’t bother checking results. Both are US-centric. ... You need to let the Stanford Professor and Pew Research know they're unqualified to perform research. :S
To reiterate, the first paper does not specifically pertain to dating apps, and the methodology of the second article is flawed (you want to know whether people meet online, so you ask people of whom >50% you found online, great technique)—so it might save someone who cares about that kind of stuff a click (a few clicks actually, since the methodology is buried in a separate article). If you don’t fall into that category, feel free to move along.
And I don’t know the author of the second article personally, but if I did of course I would point out an issue with their data.
Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech
#504There’s a service called DoNotPay that helps file legal requests to unban you. They’re obviously not miracle workers, but I’m curious whether litigation would slow them down.
Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech
#505Earlier quoted context omitted.
A democratically elected government. Look, there is no such thing as a "natural market" that can keep the power of the actors in it in check. The internet was the closest thing to a perfect market that has ever existed and all it has produced is overpowered monopoly after overpowered monopoly. If we want a free society, we don't get that by handing power over to the markets. We get that by building the most responsiv…
Sure, I am not a libertarian or anything like that. I'm all for good regulation and strong government. However, making good laws and regulations is not easy! The details of these things is incredibly important and can't be solved by some sort of generic market vs government debate. And while I do think government has a role to play, most of our regulations are poorly designed and have been captured by corporate inter…
Regulations are like code - buggy and iterative. That's why you need a responsive democracy (which the US decidedly does not have). So when a regulation has bugs, the people can get their representatives to update it.
We don't avoid writing code just because it's inevitably buggy and has unintended side effects. Indeed, there's a whole mentality of "move fast and break things" - essentially damn the side effects and full speed ahead - because we, as a sector, recognize that you have to take risks to make the world a better place. Yet, we forget that when it comes to using government power (our collective power) to make laws that shape our world.
Now, I'm not a proponent of "move fast and break things" - more, move steadily and make the best decision you can in a reasonable time frame. But "move steadily" is still moving. We can take our time writing legislation and regulations and do our best to get it right, and still also work to build responsive systems so that when it's inevitably buggy we can fix the bugs.
As I said in the second sentence, the problem with the US right now is that it was intentionally constructed to be the opposite of a responsive democracy.
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#506Earlier quoted context omitted.
You want the government to be that involved in pair-selection in the population??? I am disturbed. Eugenics aside: you know that a direct result of this is that border services, local police, etc will have access to a database of dick pics, don't you?
If they used and published a fair algorithm for matching, they wouldn't really be involved in the matching they would just be providing a venue. Similar to a city providing public space for people to meet, like a fair. Do you think the FBI, NSA, etc doesn't already have access to photos posted on dating sites in the US?
No, that's conspiracy theorists stuff. Of course, they can maybe get access with a court order.
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#507Tinder and Bumble are the same form of awful and from the same founder. These apps are designed to exploit men. There are a fewer number of women on them and plenty of men, as a result they design features like boost, super likes, and premium subscriptions that you must pay for every month. There are studies and data that show that even normally attractive men with good profiles will go unswiped while women will get…
I'll let you in on a secret ... women's experiences on Tinder aren't that great, either.
Years ago, when I ran PUA site, I set up a fake female profile on Match to see what the female experience was like. It was truly horrifying. In three days I got ~1000 messages from men, 99% of which were barely intelligible and usually one line, like "dam gurl u nicce" etc.
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#508Earlier quoted context omitted.
>All of the avenues to contact Instagram are meaningless and don’t lead anywhere. I feel you. I got permabanned from tinder when I emailed their support asking how the verification process worked with couples. They replied with a ban notice and I was confused, turns out couples profiles are against Tinders T&C. I hadn't actually done ANYTHING to violate their T&C in-app yet, just asking their support about it was eno…
The monopoly on dating is definitely not tinder… it is: real life.
> The monopoly on dating is definitely not tinder… it is: real life.
For how much longer?
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#509IMO, if your market share is bigger than ${some number}, you shouldn't be able to deny service without a documented reason, it should have some sort of time-to-live (i.e 1 year), and there should be an appeals process. In a functioning marketplace, companies would be naturally incentivized to care about customers but that stops working in uncompetitive industries (which currently describes most of the economy).
Unfortunately there are scenarios where providing a documented reason or appeal is a vulnerability, illegal or both. A too-clear disclosure gives bad actors information on how to circumvent controls around safety, abuse, and fraud. If the reason an account is deleted includes some sort of KYC/Money Laundering issue, OFAC style sanction or child porn, then there can be legal obligation, with severe penalty, to both re…
Any and all of these possibilities (vulnerability, illegal, or both) must be legalized or otherwise reframed as a cost of doing business. Every human deserves to be informed, whoever they are, regardless of status, wherever they are in the world. That we've allowed blackbox proceedings to take over these small quadrants of human society is a societal failure. The burden to secure such systems shall always fall upon the makers of those systems.
Let me be very clear that any excuse made under the veil of security including the enshrining of such in our books of law is incompatible with a society that respects the dignity to live free. It is a vicious abuse of power by those with knowledge over those robbed of it.
Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech
#510Earlier quoted context omitted.
You want the government to be that involved in pair-selection in the population??? I am disturbed. Eugenics aside: you know that a direct result of this is that border services, local police, etc will have access to a database of dick pics, don't you?
If they used and published a fair algorithm for matching, they wouldn't really be involved in the matching they would just be providing a venue. Similar to a city providing public space for people to meet, like a fair. Do you think the FBI, NSA, etc doesn't already have access to photos posted on dating sites in the US?
Even if true, "have access to" is doing a lot of work here. If I had a Borges-style Library of Babel with all the possible books in the world, all configurations of the letters of the alphabet, I would technically "have access to" all human knowledge. But that's very different from having a curated collection which includes specifically only those things, filtered perfectly for you.