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Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Comedian Bill Burr said it best: "I'm not gonna sit here with no medical degree, listening to you with no medical degree, with an American flag behind you smoking a cigar acting like we know what's up better than the CDC." [0] That quote is Joe Rogan's shtick in a nutshell. [0] https://youtube.com/watch?v=tSKVXl-WnrA&t=5m20s

I clicked that yt link and saw two friends with sense of humor busting each others balls. ppl are reading too much into things

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Of course.

Is which object orbits which actually relative to a reference frame though? Does not seem like it should be. The Sun has a certain mass, the Earth has a certain mass, the center of the point of orbit of both (barycenter? That seems to be the right term) is inside of the Sun no matter what frame you hang out in. What am I missing?

You can set up whatever frame of reference works best for a situation. We do it all the time. It's very convenient for us earthers to use a geocentric framing of the universe for our daily life, where the skies revolve around the Earth. We do it every day.

Such as the word "sunrise" is very geocentric. We don't even have a word for the heliocentric term for the same thing. We also use geocentric phrases like "jets chasing the Sun" and "sundials track the movement of the Sun", etc.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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To be fair... his move to Spotify coincided with him spewing more and more anti-vax and anti-mask drivel that I don't have any interest in listening to.

If anyone wants a datapoint, I stop listening to podcasts once they go to Spotify. I use Overcast, and generally don't have the wherewithal to chase content. I'm guessing there are more like me. I was an infrequent listener to Joe Rogan, but now I am not a listener at all (because it moved to Spotify). Also, there seems to be a lot of judgement of the kind of person Joe Rogan is (conspiracy, etc) in the comments. I h…

You basically explained my view and feelings on the matter. I watched maybe 10 episodes per year on YT but once it went to Spotify, I don't watch at all.

Coincidentally, around the same time he went to Spotify, I started getting really annoyed at his butting in and his opinions on matters that his guests know a lot more about. I've caught a clip or two on YT in recent months and I skip over any parts where the camera is on Joe, so I can just hear the guest.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

#504

Comedian Bill Burr said it best: "I'm not gonna sit here with no medical degree, listening to you with no medical degree, with an American flag behind you smoking a cigar acting like we know what's up better than the CDC." [0] That quote is Joe Rogan's shtick in a nutshell. [0] https://youtube.com/watch?v=tSKVXl-WnrA&t=5m20s

Says people who don’t watch joe rogan. Joe rogan has two kinds of guests: experts/scientists and show biz people. The former are why I watch the podcast. And I think it’s important because it gives a platform to people are being ignored by the mainstream. Take for example Paul Saladino. Watch that podcast and tell me it’s pseudo science. You can’t because he’s meticulously citing a paper and bringing up that paper to…

You forgot the third kind of guest he has...

White supremacists and Crypto Fascists.

He just lets them talk unchallenged.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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It's been frustrating watching the Spotify (and general movement) with podcasts fragmenting and going exclusive. Spotify won with music because it improved upon the existing state of listening to music and offered a free or cheap solution that was even a compelling alternative to piracy. Podcasts for the most part were in the ideal state for consumers, almost always free and mostly client independent distributed w/ R…

It's all competition for monopoly. No one "owned" podcasting, like itunes own streaming music and youtube own free-to-air TV. Spotify is trying to be the one that owns it. They bought exclusivity to as many top podcasts as they could in order to start centralizing podcasting on their platform. Eventually enough momentum shifts, and all the other podcasters have to go where users go, spotify. They may or may not succe…

I think you're giving Rogan too much credit if you think he even for a second would care about Freedom while staring at a 9 figure check.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> they predicted that masks and social distancing would flatten the curve. This worked perfectly basically anywhere people actually complied.

https://www.covidchartsquiz.com/

This really takes the cake for misleading charts, devoid of context or controlling for other factors when drawing conclusions.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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I well understand the history of this topic, after all, I have two years of Caltech physics :-) Nevertheless, as Einstein demonstrated, things look very different depending on the frame of reference. There's no such thing as a "normal" frame of reference. > the geocentricists tried to build mechanical models but the increasing number of epicycles was a big clue that the system was in fact heliocentric. Not exactly, i…

Does relativity apply also to rotating reference frames?

NIST Technical Note 1385 "GPS Receivers and Relativity" by Ashby and Weiss discusses how to solve the GPS positioning equations in a relativistically correct way. It turns out that since the frame of reference (Earth-Centered/Earth-Fixed) is rotating, it is non-inertial and you have to apply some corrections to do the job right.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Comedian Bill Burr said it best: "I'm not gonna sit here with no medical degree, listening to you with no medical degree, with an American flag behind you smoking a cigar acting like we know what's up better than the CDC." [0] That quote is Joe Rogan's shtick in a nutshell. [0] https://youtube.com/watch?v=tSKVXl-WnrA&t=5m20s

This is the most frustrating thing about Rogan for me... if he were talking to people as an uniformed layman and sharing his opinion in an effort to weed through his thoughts and become more informed, that would be great! We need more people who are willing to be wrong and learn from that. This is often how Bill Burr comes across (to me, anyway). But Rogan's not that. He likes to hear himself talk, throws his opinion…

The worst part for me was when Rogan started allowing people who were spewing obvious bullshit... to have his platform unchallenged.

When someone tells you who they are, listen. But I'd add this: When someone lets someone else speak for them, pay attention to who is in that group.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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The drop after switch makes sense. There's gotta to be significant number of people won't switch to Spotify just because of Joe Rogan's show. Half of them is about right.

His show is just one of many in my queue. I won't go through the troubleshoot of using two apps for podcast just because of him.

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