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Re: ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville

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where's the original source?

I only found this https://twitter.com/iamforrest_/status/1342580703440084994

So that previous video was not showing the start of the explosion, it was showing the end of the explosion. Labeling the end of the explosion "source" is misleading. It's possible when the RV exploded, some of the flammable material was forced across the street, and that's why there is fire across the street.

The first frame with an explosion has the explosion centered closer to the RV than to the other side of the street. I downloaded the video with youtube-dl and stepped through frame by frame with MPC-HC.

Re: ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville

#502

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Probably a car bomb. The IRA were infamous for those.

Thanks. Apparently it's no longer cool to ask questions on HN, since I had no idea what a cat bomb was, yet a mod flagged it regardless.

Common sense would tell you the t and r keys are right beside each other

Re: ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville

#503
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I am overcome with curiosity about who did this and why. The fact that nobody has claimed responsibility makes no sense. If this were a politically motivated attack, domestic or otherwise, it would almost defeat the point to have the name of your cause omitted from those initial headlines. And sparing the lives of the bystanders also doesn’t make sense for a political attack. I heard the NRA gave warnings but the rea…

> And I would guess he was in the vehicle when it exploded. Yeah, because moving an RV remotely is impossible with today's tech…

Check the news, idiot

Re: ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville

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> And I would guess he was in the vehicle when it exploded. Yeah, because moving an RV remotely is impossible with today's tech…

Check the news, idiot

Because it was in this case limits all future cases… lol

Re: ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville

#505

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Hard not to jump to the conclusion that it was some Q-Anon inspired attack on "5G".

I don’t think Qanon conspiracy theorists are capable of tying their own shoelaces, let alone knowing how to pick a good telecoms target, choosing an appropriate explosive and quantity, assembling a bomb, planning timing and logistics of the actual bombing, and completing it without getting caught by the FBI or stopped by local authorities with minimal collateral. Nothing about this says “dumbfuck theorist”. I’m just…

You don't have to be an idiot to be a batshit crazy conspiracy theorist.

Re: ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville

#506

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What about when countries bomb each other's infrastructure during war? That both causes terror in the populace and achieves a strategic objective... If causing terror were a hallmark of a terrorist attack, wouldn't every attack be a terror attack (even, for example, mass school shootings or shootings like the Las Vegas shooting, etc.)

Causing terror is the hallmark of terrorist attacks, it is what distinguishes it from normal guerrilla warfare. Certainly there can be a mixture of both tactical and terrorist motives in an attack... 9/11 was seemingly meant to both instill fear and to hobble the U.S. financial system. But what made it a terrorist attack, as opposed to an act of revolutionary war, is that it was intended to be very public and to frig…

>But what made it a terrorist attack, as opposed to an act of revolutionary war, is that it was intended to be very public and to frighten the populace.

This was true of many of the events leading up to the American Revolution too. Tarring and feathering of tax collectors, the Boston Tea Party, etc. At the time, the vast majority of Americans were Loyalists and would have been made afraid by these acts (and in fact that was the point, this is why many of the participants of the Boston Tea Party dressed up as Native Americans, to instill fear through their "savage" appearance).

If you want to say all these are terrorism too, then fine, I agree. Most people's definition of terrorism is a political one, where they can denounce acts they don't like and support those they do, and there's little consistency applied. If you're one who applies consistency, more power to you!

>Consider: murdering a witness to stop them testifying against you. That has a primarily tactical objective. Not terrorism.

>Killing someone who owes you a debt, on the other hand, is terrorism because it serves no tactical purpose (you definitely won’t get your money) it is only meant to instill fear in your other debtors.

To play devil's advocate, isn't there a tactical objective primarily in the latter example as well? By instilling fear in your other debtors, you increase the profits of your lending enterprise.

Re: ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville

#507

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The IRA nearly always sent warnings in the 90s. Usually by calling a radio station with a code word.

Same with ETA in Spain. > It's less common (although not entirely unheard of) if the bombing is a terrorist attack. But if, as you suggest, that target is infrastructure A terrorist attack’s first objective is to cause terror, not to kill people. Thus warning in advance is also effective to instill terror. And separating terrorism from bombing infrastructure is a weird dichotomy...

Imagine for the sake of discussion that the bomber was highly dissatisfied with ATT for whatever reason. He wanted revenge at that company. They over charged him for long distance minutes, or applied a data cap one too many time. In retribution he plans to bomb one of their Central Offices. He has no intention to harm any humans in this scenario. Why do you think it’s wrong to NOT classify this as “terrorism”? Protest actions aren’t necessarily “terrorism”. Instilling fear is simply the furthest from this hypothetical person’s mind. He’s getting revenge on a company the he perceives as having wrong him in some way.

We need to deepen our critical thinking a bit and evolve past “bomb = terrorism” naïveté.

Re: ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville

#509

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Unless you have those movies and video games already on your hard drive, downloading them will create a log somewhere that could be traceable. :/ Windows TTS on a device not connected to the internet is a better choice. (I don't know why we are trying to give them ideas!)

No need for the games you have all the material on youtube.

That's my point. If you go search on YT for those videos, you're leaving a digital trail that can be easily traced back to you.
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