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It's amazing how shortsighted & wrong one smarmy glib post can be. Valve is kicking ass, leading massive technical charged doing great & fantastic work with none of the typical Service-as-a-Software-Substitute slimeware that everyone else keeps falling to. Great novel hardware with very high bandwidth & compelling input, best if not only useful end user drivers out there as we see with projects like Monado XR that ar…
That's an interesting take. I don't follow the VR market at all, but from my perspective Valve has been resting on their laurels for years. I've read that gaben just sits in his office playing DOTA 2 all day. Until I read your comment I would never have considered describing Valve as "kicking ass". From where I sit they've basically done nothing innovative since Half Life 2.
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I'd say all it means is I value my data above $700, which I understand is not the case with many people. If I would not have enough disposable income, then I wouldn't buy Index nor Quest.
Your comment was about whether facebook "won" the VR segment, not whether facebook won over you specifically. I'm sure many people in hackernews value their privacy above $700, me included, but that's clearly not the point here. We're just a blip in facebook's radar.
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> At this point it's clear that Facebook have "won" VR. Eh, it doesn't look clear at all to me. It looks like its main advantage is slightly higher resolution than Valve Index and wirelessness. On the other hand from what I read Quest 2 only now will finally get 90Hz - this is what even old Vive provided. And Index goes beyond that - up to 120 and 144Hz. Also I wonder how Quest's screen quality compares to Index, bes…
> And with Facebook behind Quest, I consider Index to be cheaper - I'll take $999 any day over $299 + my data. All that really means is you have enough disposable income that it's actually a decision worth even considering. For most people it's aimed at that's not the case. This isn't Gmail for free vs some paid service for $5/mo, this is more than three times the cost for something that already costs multiple hundre…
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> And with Facebook behind Quest, I consider Index to be cheaper - I'll take $999 any day over $299 + my data. All that really means is you have enough disposable income that it's actually a decision worth even considering. For most people it's aimed at that's not the case. This isn't Gmail for free vs some paid service for $5/mo, this is more than three times the cost for something that already costs multiple hundre…
I'd say all it means is I value my data above $700, which I understand is not the case with many people. If I would not have enough disposable income, then I wouldn't buy Index nor Quest.
Please, anyone, desperately anyone, literally anyone, please, for the love of god, make a competing headset that doesn’t have this deep Facebook integration bullshit. I do not want to see this become the Oasis.
$300 is a pretty big deal for pricing on a VR headset, that feels very different from $400 for wide adoption. Seems like this is also the end of the road for Rift, the Quest 2 is lower cost, more pixels, and they mentioned 90 hz screens for PCVR games over Link. EDIT - review units went out in advance, so 3rd party reviews are already up. Here's one from Tested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_x6lux6f_6g
Please, anyone, desperately anyone, literally anyone, please, for the love of god, make a competing headset that doesn’t have this deep Facebook integration bullshit. I do not want to see this become the Oasis.
Please, anyone, desperately anyone, literally anyone, please, for the love of god, make a competing headset that doesn’t have this deep Facebook integration bullshit. I do not want to see this become the Oasis.
HTC is working on a XR2 based version of their Vive Focus standalone headset (source: https://www.roadtovr.com/htc-vive-focus-xr2-geekbench/ ). It will be out in 2021. I hope it will be less than twice expensive as the (subsidized) Quest 2.
Please, anyone, desperately anyone, literally anyone, please, for the love of god, make a competing headset that doesn’t have this deep Facebook integration bullshit. I do not want to see this become the Oasis.
Just make a dummy facebook account. No one is forcing you to give them your real personal info.
They've now announced some kind of developer accounts for businesses that won't be tied to personal FB accounts.