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Yes. I don’t want to press the “no” button for a 100 times.
I can relate. Every time I pickup an old iOS device the stupid thing is nags me to update it, 100 times. And you can't just click no you have to click multiple things to get it to fuck off.
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Developers are not jumping through hoops to support their platform. I’m a full stack dev, I understand what it takes to support safari and a majority of the time is actually Chrome being fast and loose with the standard, not Apple. Is it a partial implementation, sure. But the features lacking don’t stop meaningful work at all. Just like hearing my statement is old, so is yours.
> Developers are not jumping through hoops to support their platform They are > I’m a full stack dev, I understand what it takes to support safari and a majority of the time is actually Chrome being fast and loose with the standard I am as well, I understand a closed platform when I see one. > But the features lacking don’t stop meaningful work at all. If only it was true... It' s not lacking, it has been removed on…
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If the lack of push notifications on iOS were the only thing forcing developers to create iOS apps, those same developers wouldn’t overwhelmingly be creating Android apps. Where are all the developers who are being forced to create iOS apps but are “saving money” by not creating Android apps because PWA support is so good?
Most skip making apps all together because they rely on email notifications.
1. Web, iOS, Android
2. Web, iOS - since PWAs are suppose to be “good enough for Android”.
3. Web
But you hardly ever see #2. Why is that?
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> Developers are not jumping through hoops to support their platform They are > I’m a full stack dev, I understand what it takes to support safari and a majority of the time is actually Chrome being fast and loose with the standard I am as well, I understand a closed platform when I see one. > But the features lacking don’t stop meaningful work at all. If only it was true... It' s not lacking, it has been removed on…
I can play this game too, Nope.
You don't even understand the rules.
Sorry.
Notification APIs are in Webkit, the open source implementation of Safari.
proof: https://github.com/WebKit/webkit/blob/89c28d471fae35f1788a0f...
Can you prove that Apple didn't remove standard APIs from their browser?
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According to the data I found, PWAs make 50% of the Android market. Among the most popular there are - Uber - Pinterest - Telegram - Trivago - Tinder - Google maps Go - AliExpress
Yet most of those companies decided to make native apps. If PWA’s were good enough, why bother writing native apps for Android? Do you have a citation?
same reason people write native apps on iOS
It's easier to track users, especially those users rich enough to buy high end phones and that will probably spend more money and the ROI is higher.
They also make PWAS to gain user base on low end phones and emerging markets.
And because making them is quite cheap.
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If it was such a big deal for all the software to be updated on day 1, Apple could have made sure their own software was updated. It just isn’t a big deal.
I love that you aren't in this field at all, but seem to know better than others who are. This is like that person that starts a new job, walks in on day one, and then proclaims that the place is doing everything wrong without knowing anything about how the business operates.
You know nothing about me.
Until you started making personal attacks, this was simply disagreement and many interesting points were made, which is fine. Perhaps most people agree with your perspective.
You with this comment, on the other hand are literally offering nothing except ignorance to this conversation. No valuable analysis, and only incorrect facts.
I wonder why you feel the need to do this?
What would make you decide that this was helpful? Do you think you are protecting someone?
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Most skip making apps all together because they rely on email notifications.
I agree. But if PWAs were good enough on Android, you should see, depending on your budget from largest to smallest: 1. Web, iOS, Android 2. Web, iOS - since PWAs are suppose to be “good enough for Android”. 3. Web But you hardly ever see #2. Why is that?
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Yet most of those companies decided to make native apps. If PWA’s were good enough, why bother writing native apps for Android? Do you have a citation?
> PWA’s were good enough, why bother writing native apps for Android? same reason people write native apps on iOS It's easier to track users, especially those users rich enough to buy high end phones and that will probably spend more money and the ROI is higher. They also make PWAS to gain user base on low end phones and emerging markets. And because making them is quite cheap.
Do you propose that Apple makes Safari more able to invade privacy?
If the only purpose of PWAs for Android is to make it easier to run on low end cheap phones - that’s really not a good argument is it with iOS is it? Even the 6s from 2015 is more performant than many mid range new Android phones.
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Yes, let’s have the company pay for an entire development team to learn Obj-C or have additional hires, just so their apps can do on Apple’s platform what it can do everywhere else just fine. /s
Every single person I know who has switched from Android to iOS in the past year or two has said that Apps work better on iOS. Apps simply don’t work ‘just fine’ everywhere else.
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I agree. But if PWAs were good enough on Android, you should see, depending on your budget from largest to smallest: 1. Web, iOS, Android 2. Web, iOS - since PWAs are suppose to be “good enough for Android”. 3. Web But you hardly ever see #2. Why is that?
Doesn’t matter. My point still stands. You keep repeating yours, while failing to see mine.