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Re: Facebook account now required to login to Oculus devices

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Can you unpack that a bit?

If you stop smoking you'll feel better but it's not going to do anything to reduce smoking in the world overall. The only thing that can reduce smoking is the law: taxes, restrictions on where smoking is permitted, and so on. You should still stop smoking (for your own good) but that alone won't change the world.

That makes sense but the same argument could apply to voting....

Re: Facebook account now required to login to Oculus devices

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I don't know about Razer recently, but I have a 13 button Logitech mouse (G700s) and it would be essentially useless without the Logitech software to configure it. I assume Razer mice are the same, you could technically use them without Synapse, but if you're doing that you may as well have bought a Microsoft Intellimouse instead. And Synapse did require a login for several years. Looks like it doesn't anymore, thank…

I'm not sure if this is true for the G700s, but many other Logitech mice store the configuration on the device itself, which lets you configure it once and then get rid of the software or use it on computers or OSes where you've never installed the software. This is true for my G502.

+1 to this

I plugged my G700s into a Windows machine with the Logitech bloatware suite installed, programmed it, and I've been using it on a Mac for years since then without any trouble

Re: Facebook account now required to login to Oculus devices

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Exhibit n + 1 on why when you're acquired you're not in a position to promise anything to anyone despite any assurances from the acquirer. Or, from the consumer's side, why those promises should carry no weight.

is it such a big deal to create a fb account though? Can't you just use a fake name if you don't care about having a fb account?

Given how pervasive Facebook tracking is, I'd bet on your pseudonymous account being linked to your shadow profile very quickly. There is no anonymity when Facebook is involved.

I'd also strongly object to moving the needle even the tiniest amount on Facebook's metrics. They wouldn't force users to do this unless it benefitted them; that's plenty enough reason for a lot of people.

Re: Facebook account now required to login to Oculus devices

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Well this is horrifying. I bought a Quest for a relative. He loves it, but he doesn't have a Facebook account, and has no interest in signing up. I have a Facebook account, but I don't use it, and I certainly don't want to connect my Oculus account. I guess we'll both have to sell our Quests. That means we'll lose all of our game purchases. I came to Oculus with eyes wide open knowing it was a Facebook company, but t…

If you make a Facebook account and never touch the Facebook aspect of it, is there any material difference between that and an Oculus account?

What if you are not allowed to make a FB account due to their TOS? Not everyone can be on FB.

Re: Facebook account now required to login to Oculus devices

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Facebook deals in contracts, not promises and even if it was contractually agreed upon, what would you do about it? Sue? At a guess you'd count the money one more time, shrug and maybe send a short apologetic note about how terrible you feel about it. And then count the money again.

I'm absolving Palmer of making a promise he couldn't keep because of Facebook. Palmer is correct here and shouldn't be getting the blowback that he is. Obviously Facebook can do what they want within the terms.

Palmer made the promise knowing full well he would pull a "See, not in my hands, I can't do anything". It's all just a PR move.

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I don't know Palmer and until 5 minutes didn't know his name. I don't dislike him, I'm sure he's a nice guy and great person, and I think the product and achievement is impressive. But: I respect him for eating humble pie now. I absolutely do not respect yet alone absolve him of not doing so originally . Why would one? There's nothing NEW that came to the table: Facebook can do what they want now, and crucially that…

Harshing on Palmer might feel like the right thing for folks, but they should be harshing on Facebook right now. Palmer has little to no agency and by focusing on the scapegoat, we ignore the avenues for change that are available right now. Ultimately, energy spent on Palmer distracts from getting Facebook to modify its behavior.

Why did he make a promise knowing full well it would not be kept? But but but FB... No. Both are in the wrong. Palmer AND FB.

Re: Facebook account now required to login to Oculus devices

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I guess now is the time to look into how to root the console and install a custom ROM in a similar fashion to de-Googling your android phone. There is already enough support in the community for side-loading APKs and the like. Does anyone know of any ways to achieve this?

Re: Facebook account now required to login to Oculus devices

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Quelle surprise, a big tech company making a big tech company move to drive users into their embattled flagship.

I take this as a negative indicator of how things are going for Facebook. I don’t see any synergy with oculus other than that both products have users. Maybe that is enough from a business standpoint, but I feel forcing login to Facebook is going to kill oculus adoption, it isn’t like 6 years ago, there are viable alternatives if you want a VR rig. It just looks and feels desperate to me.

Re: Facebook account now required to login to Oculus devices

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If that is the case it would be harder to get a FB account than to vote in some states...

It's almost like having access to a company's services is less essential than having a hand in your society's decision-making mechanism.

It's almost as though Facebook understands how important it is to verify you are who you say you are. A simple verification to certify that those in their system are authentic.
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