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The iPad Awkwardly Turns 10

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Post by hug »

mdorazio wrote: post #363
koboll wrote: post #326

I do digital painting on the side, as a hobby. In that field, the iPad Pro, specifically the Procreate app, has been revolutionary -- every single famous digital illustrator, concept artist, and comics artist I follow on Instagram has one, and they post gorgeous work done on them regularly. It's the only tool that comes remotely close to challenging the gold standard workflow of Wacom tablet + Photoshop, and Wacom an…

I'm curious why iPad Pro and not Surface, which from my (admittedly limited) use has always had digitizer responsiveness and functionality at the same level, with the benefit of also being a computer with all the normal software workflow and hotkeys.

Late to the party, but the answer is almost certainly just ProCreate.

ProCreate (according to my girlfriend, who has a degree in illustration) is absolutely second to none with regards to completely eliminating the friction from digital painting.

The toolset & UI/UX feel like someone who had used Photoshop with a Wacom tablet for 10 years took everything they liked about interacting with Photoshop and got it right, and everything they hated about Photoshop and fixed it.

The app itself is absurdly responsive on a 2018 iPad Pro. I don't know if you saw the Hobbit in the theatres when everyone was freaking out about the frame rate because it felt too fast? It's like that, but enjoyable. Every other app on my iPad seems sluggish in comparison, and I don't even know how. (And don't get me started with comparing it to Photoshop, even on a ridiculously beefy machine with a 144Hz display.)

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Post by derefr »

gregjor wrote: post #454
garrickvanburen wrote: post #400

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An iPad Pro has been my primary work device for nearly 20months now. I recommend it any professional that doesn’t need to write code.

An iPad is fine for writing code, but not capable of compiling/running code. For web development specifically you can't run a real web app on it. iOS Safari doesn't have the inspector/debugger so you can't use it much for debugging/experimenting with web pages. If iOS Safari had the inspector/debugger, or just inspector with live JS console, I would almost never need to use my laptop (which is just Chromebook, but ru…

> An iPad is fine for writing code, but not capable of compiling/running code.

I mean, hardware-wise, it's totally capable; it's got a pretty powerful CPU in it. It's just the App Store publishing policies that don't want to cooperate.

But there's nothing fundamentally stopping someone from creating a Crouton-like "chroot in a box" environment and publishing it as an XCode project; and nothing stopping you from taking said XCode project and deploying it to your iPad using development provisioning.

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Post by LeifCarrotson »

wlesieutre wrote: post #251
LeifCarrotson wrote: post #236

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Charging magnetically on the side of the host device is neat, but not required. A separate charging dock would work too.

I don't think that would be a good solution, you'd have yet another oddball charging widget and if you didn't bring it with you everywhere the battery would die and you couldn't recharge it. If anything, I'd rather they put the charging hardware in the front bezel somewhere, since that's already flat. Not a good place for storage or for charging the pencil while the iPad is in use, but at least you wouldn't get stran…

That depends where your "everywhere" is. I (like a lot of people) work at the same desk every day, and I trust the battery would last if I brought the device home or to a conference or something. Or I could get/bring a spare charge dock.

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Post by blt »

dkonofalski wrote: post #380
Terretta wrote: post #332

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Fully agree. I think Gruber’s dead wrong, and folks should try it for a couple months. Leave the Macbook or Win10 laptop at home, and force yourself to rewire your brain into the iPad affordances and apps. Aside from being able to turn his complaint off: To turn Multitasking features on or off, go to Settings > Home Screen & Dock > Multitasking then turn off Allow Multiple Apps if you don't want to use Slide Over or…

I agree that Gruber is wrong but only in his details. The iPad should have been much more than it is and, although I have seen it revolutionize the way that many field workers are able to do their jobs, I still think it could have been more. On another note, I also agree with the sentiment that people should try to force themselves to use it for a bit. I used to work for a company that did corporate software/hardware…

I like your point about field workers. The iPad is a great replacement for a clipboard with a multi-page form.

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Post by schuke »

jarjoura wrote: post #480

As someone who worked on the iPad v1, I can tell you, it was a product built in search of a problem. It was going to compete against the, then, growing Netbook market. Steve Jobs thought Windows was going to win that market and hastily threw a team together to answer for it. However, during several all-hands, no one except SJ seemed even remotely excited about the product. "These things will probably sell in the educ…

My mother had been vowing to learn to use a computer for more than a decade before the iPad. Of course she was never able to turn one on. But when she had an iPad she just kept using it.

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Post by prpl »

jarjoura wrote: post #480

As someone who worked on the iPad v1, I can tell you, it was a product built in search of a problem. It was going to compete against the, then, growing Netbook market. Steve Jobs thought Windows was going to win that market and hastily threw a team together to answer for it. However, during several all-hands, no one except SJ seemed even remotely excited about the product. "These things will probably sell in the educ…

Kids love iPads/tablets - more than just for education. They love fortnite on them, they love youtube on them. A 3 year old can use an iPad. Sure - they can use phones too, but tablets will be the first computer for kids for a long time, until they start to reach for phablets when they are teenagers (or, as a society, we reject screen time below a certain age)

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Post by TheKarateKid »

FreakyT wrote: post #374
Fiahil wrote: post #269

I completely agree with this article. The iPad hardware is absolutely wonderful, it's light, gorgeous and powerful. I got the latest iPad pro to watch Netflix in bed and it fills that purpose completely. However, the OS running on the machine is bad. Very bad. The multitasking is horrifying. The Files app is unusable (especially if you want to access your files from an FTP server). You have to use your finger to sele…

My single biggest problem on the iPad is the way Safari just randomly kills your background tabs. Filling out a web form? You'd better hope that their half-baked tab state saving worked! (Spoiler alert: it probably didn't) It's particularly annoying because of the headline features of iPadOS was that you could finally use Google Docs in Safari! It's actually amazing how well it works...until you switch tabs or apps a…

This aggressive killing of background tabs/apps is due to the iPad’s notoriously low amount of RAM. They put less than the equivalent iPhone models for a device that is supposed to be for multitasking.

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Post by TheKarateKid »

jarjoura wrote: post #480

As someone who worked on the iPad v1, I can tell you, it was a product built in search of a problem. It was going to compete against the, then, growing Netbook market. Steve Jobs thought Windows was going to win that market and hastily threw a team together to answer for it. However, during several all-hands, no one except SJ seemed even remotely excited about the product. "These things will probably sell in the educ…

> “Developers will always surprise us, they will come up with use cases for us."

Well, they did. iPads are now replacing POS registers and kiosks. Although a part of me dies when I see iPad Pros being used for this, because it’s so powerful and capable yet being used as a big touch monitor.

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Post by zarmin »

amiga_500 wrote: post #488
snapetom wrote: post #411

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I feel that Apple has lost its way with OS design in the past 5 years or so. Not at a macro level, but at a micro, "little things" level. Launch anything Apple-written these days and you'll get a wizard telling you how to use some new widget - just like any other software by anyone else. I don't think Apple has ever done that before because features were designed so well, you can easily figure it out. Then there are…

Itunes was utterly terrible. My iphone is terrible. Apple make very, very bad software. And their hardware is overpriced. And they deliberately make people pay more for accessories like their pointless new audio port. Android is superior in every way, except (I'm told) on privacy. I cannot comprehend why anyone buys apple. I have to have apple for my work phone, and I hate it. Just today I was wrestling with their dr…

Posts like these are very cathartic to me.

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Post by audiodude »

> How would anyone ever figure out how to split-screen multitask on the iPad if they didn’t already know how to do it?

Or if this article hadn't just taught me how to do it. Be right back, about to go multitask on my ipad for the first time...

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