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Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by i2shar »

aikah wrote: post #471
coldfire wrote: post #376

As a long time Chrome user, and someone who (admittedly) said to a FF fan about an year ago, that it's too late for FF to catch up to Chrome now. I gave FF another shot about 6 months ago, and I'm liking it more every month since then. It has been my primary browser outside of work, the major reason I use Chrome now is for Chrome Dev Tools. Also, some websites don't behave well in FF and I find that most of the time…

The mere fact that login into Google logs me in Chrome as well made me decide to switch to another browser. It's as simple as that. Google doesn't care about user's privacy.

(Comment I made on another thread recently):

I switched to Firefox from Chrome a couple of months ago. The sole motivation was the fiasco that ensued after Google decided to mingle Chrome Sync login with accounts.google.com cookies - there is simply no way to sign in to Chrome Sync without creating browser cookies for the same account. I wanted the benefit of saving and syncing bookmarks and extensions across my chrome installations, but I did not want to be tracked across the web with my logged in Google identity and the Chrome changes for "Identity consistency between browser and cookie jar" made it impossible. It was time to move on from Chrome.

And I have been very pleased with the new Firefox. Highly recommend it to everyone!

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by thayne »

DrJaws wrote: post #383
coldfire wrote: post #376

As a long time Chrome user, and someone who (admittedly) said to a FF fan about an year ago, that it's too late for FF to catch up to Chrome now. I gave FF another shot about 6 months ago, and I'm liking it more every month since then. It has been my primary browser outside of work, the major reason I use Chrome now is for Chrome Dev Tools. Also, some websites don't behave well in FF and I find that most of the time…

wouldn't firefox dev edition give you the tools you need? https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/developer/

feature-wise firefox dev tools are pretty close to chrome's. However, if you have a large number (thousands) of sources and try to set a breakpoint, performance slows to a crawl. This probably doesn't impact a lot of web developers, but when you develop a large complicated web app and want to debug unobfuscated/unminimized code, this is a big pain point.

See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1288493

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by int_19h »

neurostimulant wrote: post #428
saagarjha wrote: post #407

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It may not; you'll just get fake notification prompts from the page that will morph intro instructions on how to enable notifications when you click "accept".

This already happening for quite some time now. Many websites uses OneSignal and their fake prompt looks similar with Chrome's notification prompt (at least to ordinary users): https://documentation.onesignal.com/docs/permission-requests...

From this link:

"OneSignal Prompts are a 'soft request', meaning that they are not invoking the 'hard request' of the browser's Native Permission Prompt. This is important because if a user denies the native prompt, the developer is unable to prompt the user again, unless the user goes through a multi-step process to re-enable these permissions. On the other hand, if a user dismisses a Soft Prompt, the app or website can still present them the option later on."

Speaking for myself, showing such prompts repeatedly is a very good way to ensure that I'll never visit your website ever again. No, I don't care about your mobile app, anymore so than I did two days ago.

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by DrJaws »

thayne wrote: post #502
DrJaws wrote: post #383

Earlier quoted context omitted.

wouldn't firefox dev edition give you the tools you need? https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/developer/

feature-wise firefox dev tools are pretty close to chrome's. However, if you have a large number (thousands) of sources and try to set a breakpoint, performance slows to a crawl. This probably doesn't impact a lot of web developers, but when you develop a large complicated web app and want to debug unobfuscated/unminimized code, this is a big pain point. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1288493

interesting, thanks for the insight

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by mtm7 »

noisem4ker wrote: post #371
mtm7 wrote: post #141

Firefox keeps getting better. I really want to switch. The only thing that’s holding me back is the design. It just doesn’t look as modern as Chrome or Brave. The back button is a different height than the search bar; the tab container doesn’t line up with the search from the left side of the window. And it has a weird mix of slightly-square and rounded buttons, which makes it feel like a second-class browser. I know…

If you really wanted to switch, as you say, you would've done so regardless of aesthetic imperfections.

That’s a strange take.

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by glandium »

amelius wrote: post #460
glandium wrote: post #416

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you saying this is what happens with the Ubuntu package or with the Mozilla binary? If the former, it could be https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1601707

I'm using the Mozilla binary. And it's not a crash, but it appears to be a focus problem (password field loses and gets back focus when typing, randomly).

FWIW, the bug I linked to doesn't necessarily manifest itself as a crash. But it doesn't apply to the Mozilla binary.

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by NeutronStar »

sharmi wrote: post #435
saagarjha wrote: post #406

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Chrome isn't the default on a lot of platforms.

It is on chrome notebooks. And every search on google.com prompts you to install chrome for 'a better user experience'. Soon, just by plain nagging, it ends up becoming default

Chome OS represents less than 1% of the market share. It is, for all intent and purpose, not even worth mentioning.

And no, not every searches on google.com asks you to install chrome.

If the nagging is prompting you to do what the nagging is asking you to d, you already failed.

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by NeutronStar »

deith wrote: post #439
saagarjha wrote: post #406

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Chrome isn't the default on a lot of platforms.

The default browser on Windows sucks and when you get online and go to Google you get an ad to download Chrome. That sorta makes it the default.

If I tell you to go jump a bridge, is bridge jumping the default?

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by randyrand »

deith wrote: post #441
nathancahill wrote: post #437

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Oh that's very nice. In iOS 7 we had a jailbreak tweak called NoSlowAnimations[0]. It was amazing how much a simple thing increased the perceived speed and responsiveness of the OS. [0] http://cydia.saurik.com/package/com.marcosinghof.noslowanima...

You can completely disable animations in accessibility settings.

There is still a slow cross fade animation.

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by radicalriddler »

coldfire wrote: post #376

As a long time Chrome user, and someone who (admittedly) said to a FF fan about an year ago, that it's too late for FF to catch up to Chrome now. I gave FF another shot about 6 months ago, and I'm liking it more every month since then. It has been my primary browser outside of work, the major reason I use Chrome now is for Chrome Dev Tools. Also, some websites don't behave well in FF and I find that most of the time…

What do you use in Chrome Dev Tools that aren't in Firefox's?
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