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Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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This might work out ok at low speed. The algorithm is simply "Don't hit anything. Stop if confused."

Considering that they haven't perfected the "don't accelerate into stationary objects" algorithm, I'm not sure I trust this in an area with a lot of pedestrian traffic.

Why are you spreading fake information? This hasn't been the case for years, if ever.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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I'm always surprised how many ycombinator news readers keep repeating utterly false trite that they heard in some news report that is completely false or was true years ago and has long been fixed. It's like people are just only listening to things that confirm their anti-Tesla biases. People need to take a step back and just read the Wikipedia on things more often.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Tesla 3 owner here. Beyond tapping up / down temperature arrows I don't ever need to touch my A/C settings and it remembers my settings when I pick my profile (and soon it will recognize me automatically) so I think it's less annoying than analog setup personally.

i have an analog vehicle, and the car doesn't need to have to remember my settings because they are physically in the same location.

And what if you share your car with someone who prefers different settings?

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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> Autopilot is more then just "active lane centering and steering" (known as LKAS) Autopilot is a combination of a lot of things (TACC + Autosteer + Auto Lane Change + Auto Lane Keep + NOA etc...) Yes, it is. The parent just made a dismissive, " Does it steer and lane center in general, besides when you drift out of lane?", implying that other cars don't. Other cars also have other features beyond LKAS, too. That's j…

Just to follow up on the reddit post, the author of the post submitted another one with an additional video with more angles. https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/d3yx03/round_2...

Thanks! No other car that you can buy right now can do that. I will eat my words if proven otherwise.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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The depth and breadth of anti-Tesla sentiment in HN threads is curious. It's rarely from owners. By all satisfaction surveys, owners love their Teslas.

It's very intriguing indeed... I always thought the HN demographic is a pretty smart bunch, because I often learn quite a bit from the comment section. I don't get all of the anti-Tesla vitriol, I'm honestly curious what fuels it. It's like all objectivity get's thrown out the window.

Tesla has been discussed here for a very long time. And on HN contrarian opinions appear to get more votes than mainstream ones. Back when it wasn't clear that electric cars would have a chance at becoming mainstream talking positively about Tesla was a lot more popular than now (where Tesla seems to be the benchmark for electric cars). At least that's how I remember it, the HN search doesn't seem to go back further than 5 years.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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It occurs to me that I would equate Mac to Tesla and Linux to a car in which you get full access to the engine and are able to change any piece you want. Tesla is the opposite of Linux philosophy.

> Tesla is the opposite of Linux philosophy. It literally records and reports back to HQ. If you ever make any statement that Tesla doesn't like, they will use what should be your own data against you. Surveillance capitalism. Ownership as a service. They also restrict the repairability via software. It's as far from gnu as its possible to be.

> It literally records and reports back to HQ. If you ever make any statement that Tesla doesn't like, they will use what should be your own data against you.

Wow. Take out the tinfoil hat Sir. I'll PayPal you $1000USD if you can cite this ridiculous claim.

> They also restrict the repairability via software.

You CAN perform repairs on them, you can even access the parts catalog (https://epc.teslamotors.com) for free when most manufacturers charge for this or even restrict it to dealers only. Need a part? Just call up a service center!

Many people have also refurbished Tesla battery packs and even rebuilt salvaged cars: https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/my-first-model-3-reb...

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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The depth and breadth of anti-Tesla sentiment in HN threads is curious. It's rarely from owners. By all satisfaction surveys, owners love their Teslas.

It's very intriguing indeed... I always thought the HN demographic is a pretty smart bunch, because I often learn quite a bit from the comment section. I don't get all of the anti-Tesla vitriol, I'm honestly curious what fuels it. It's like all objectivity get's thrown out the window.

I used to be "anti Tesla", then I tried one, and now I own one.

Teslas are disruptive - they're not what you expect of cars. I will never look the same at a car again. Tell this to anyone who doesn't understand, and they simply won't understand what you're going on about.

Over a year in; driving my Model X still makes me smile.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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I want a well-put-together electric car that's completely analog from the user's perspective . There's not a single user-facing digital feature I've ever seen on a car that I wanted, and in fact most of them make things worse. Obviously there's some non-user-facing stuff, i.e. all-wheel-drive, which computerization has revolutionized. But any user-facing stuff is just awful. I want an electric car, but I don't want t…

Why not smart assistant integration? Me (driving): Alexa/Siri set temperature to 70 degrees Alexa/Siri: temperature set to 70 degrees I would love this, already do it with my smart thermostat + Alexa skill integration.

I bought an Amazon Alexa Auto so that I can control Spotify via voice: https://youtu.be/WBUKw4801HE

But I can do that now using the voice commands on the v10 update. I know there's a guy who tinkers with the firmware code and found that the voice commands for temp and other settings are dormant on a previous update.

https://twitter.com/greentheonly/status/1112574502678994944

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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I have a VW radio with a touchscreen.

Fortunately the volume knob is in a fixed location so I can use it without taking my eyes of the road and the skip/play buttons are on the steering wheel.

While aircraft use glass cockpits , the important controls keeping it in the sky are still good old button/levers even with different shapes/textures.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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The depth and breadth of anti-Tesla sentiment in HN threads is curious. It's rarely from owners. By all satisfaction surveys, owners love their Teslas.

as an owner and investor in Tesla, i find it best to avoid hacker news threads tesla focused due to the lack of ignorance and closed minded people who think they know about this company from all of the negative press that they read about the company - which generally is either months old, or talking about garbage. It always ends up this way, for tesla stuff stick with the forums ( tesla, module three owners club, etc…

I am honestly not sure how to react to that post. So let me give you some points, in no particular order:

- Just stating bad press has some connotation of "fake news", there is a lot of bias in the media regarding Musk and Tesla. So much that it is close to impossible to get a fact based view. Yet, the facts ot there aren't that great, especially regarding the finances. So if you are making a point about opinions being based on bad press alone and criticize others, provide fact and data.

- Saying others talk garbage is kind of a personal attack, you might want to refer again the posting guidelines.

- One of the interesting points about HN is the multitude of opinions, you don't have to agree to learn something new. Quite the contrary. And here the guidelines come in to have an open discussion.

On a side note, I didn't downvote you. Reason is because in threads like these it doesn't help a lot anyways. Also, I think personal opinions about the discussions here themselves are perfectly fine. Just tone it down with regards to opinions you don't necessarily agree with.

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