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Because it interferes with the idea of a TV being a display. A TV should not have apps. If it does have apps, these apps should not communicate data to the manufacturer. It shouldn't send back data about the operating system because a TV shouldn't have an operating system.
I agree having an OS on a TV is gratuitous. But that doesn't change that the claims the headline made are not actually proven by the evidence presented.
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I've looked in the past and could never seem to find one. Do you happen to have a link on hand? I'd be very interested, especially if it also supports HDR.
Amazon.com menu > Electronics, Computers & Office > TV & Video Type in "4k -smart" without the quotes in the search box. Use the filters on the left to narrow it down to TVs (like selecting what size you want).
This is a pretty open secret within the industry. Geographic data can be provided via setup (a lot of TV's ask for a zip code on setup) or usually simply via GeoIP lookup. Dig a bit deeper and you get into service provided by Samba TV and or Inscape and you can find that they're sending back frames of video in a lot of cases to track what you're watching. This data is becoming a huge mechanism for subsidizing TV sale…
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An acquaintance attempted that with Kindle, by keeping it in flight mode. After some days it popped up a message kindly asking to give it some network access. After a few more days it simply ignored the flight mode and connected to get fresh ads. Edit: I've checked with my wife who has an ad supported Kindle for over a year and keeps it in flight mode for months at a time. It never did that to her. So either Amazon c…
That's honestly outrageous to the point of scandal. Aside from the point that these are expensive devices, these are devices that you own. You, the owner, should be able to control them to a complete degree.
I'm not saying it's ok to ignore flight mode options, but neither is the expectation to completely avoid ads when buying this very version of the Kindle.
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LG seems to be the least crappy option here. But if you're willing to spend some extra $$, you can get a "meeting room display" with the same panel, but zero smart features and no speakers.
Do you mean from LG specifically? Just had a quick google search for "meeting room display 4k hdr" and Sony Bravia professional displays including playing "online content with no need for external devices"
Meeting room displays you can buy from anyone, they're just basically really big monitors without any smart features. The only downside is that, they're a good 100-200% more expensive than the exact same panel with smart features =/
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Not even a secret. A TV manufacturer publicly said a while ago that a TV without "smart" features is more expensive for the company (even if sold at the same retail price) because they cannot make any money from selling usage data.
Nowhere does it mention "usage data". Services revenue in general is where all devices are going. If you subscribe to Netflix on your smart TV, the TV maker gets comms. Again, this referral/conversion model is pretty dated. Otherwise TV maker has no incentive to pre-bundle your app (same as Windows, some Android phones, Lenovo laptops, etc).
The big one is "supports popular services out of the box" is a selling point to consumers.
Even if it boots up to a store page where you can download them all, a whingy answer for "Does it do Netflix" will drive buyers to the next TV.
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What's funny about this is that I think this is a legitimate and relatively non-evil use case. It all comes down to lack of transparency/oversight and the option to exercise control as an individual.
They are spying on millions of people without their consent and without telling them about it. In what universe is this legitimate and non-evil?
Eventually the marginal increase in profit is less than the marginal increase in adtech cost. I wouldn't be surprised if many industries passed that point years ago. There's probably a lot of hype and hubris disguising that fact, but someone's going to make a successful business case out of cheap, low-creepiness spray-and-pray advertising.
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>This data is becoming a huge mechanism for subsidizing TV sales and the interactivity is being looked at as a huge opportunity to recoup some of the ad spend being lost via streaming and fewer 30 second spots So what are the options for a consumer willing to pay for privacy? Will console manufacturers be more respectful for example? (I've considered a console to serve as a bluray player / host OS for streaming apps…
> So what are the options for a consumer willing to pay for privacy? Don't buy a TV at all. Instead, buy a large monitor and hook it up to a computer to act as a media center.