Google Talk Is Being Discontinued • Hacker News Board

Re: Google Talk Is Being Discontinued

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Post by sneak » Wed, Mar 29, 2017, 9:25 AM UTC

kethinov wrote: post #499

sneak wrote: post #497

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That work asynchronously even when I'm not online, that I can check later, that have functionally replaced almost all of the communication that used to happen over email... It's technically and functionally identical to non-federated email.

Slack doesn't replace email. That's a silly marketing slogan. Imagine for a moment if it really did. What if Slack became so popular that everyone stopped using email? That would be horrifying. You wouldn't be able to communicate with anyone without using Slack because it doesn't federate with any other service. Every website would have to integrate with Slack for user account registrations. Etc. Decentralized federa…

...and yet, here we are, where most people who wish to contact me will send me a message on facebook before they'll send me an email.

It's not fragmentation if there is a single one that the whole planet uses.

Re: Google Talk Is Being Discontinued

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Post by Markoff » Thu, Mar 30, 2017, 6:30 PM UTC

gtirloni wrote: post #468

Markoff wrote: post #466

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strange, nobody i know use Google to chat or video call, some members of our family use Viber, i convinced few to Signal so they can talk to me, pretty much everyone has Skype but most of the people use it just on desktop and then when I would ask people around everyone use WhatsApp or Facebook Messenger, but Google communication apps are pretty much dead here around me in Europe somewhere slightly higher than Signal…

It's not that everybody here is using Google apps. They aren't. They all use WhatsApp or FB Messenger. But those options are terrible to me (particularly because desktop clients are bad or non-existent) The reasons I hope Google gets their act together is because they are in the right place to do so. They have the mindshare, just need to execute better and network effects may kick in. It also doesn't matter if they h…

Skype Lite is Android app intended for India only, you can install it through Yalp market or from Apk mirror, it's pretty much same as proper Skype, just 3 times smaller and should be lighter on data, not sure why Microsoft doesn't officially allow it in other markets too since it can deal with your voice calls, skype calls, SMS, chat so you could replace your dialer, your messaging app and your Skype

Signal should be always introduced just as nice SMS/MMS app and add it can also send encrypted chat messages if other party has Signal as well, because what's the point having single purpose SMS app when you can have app providing two options of delivering your messages, I think it's good way to sell Signal, considering most of built in SMS apps are crap.

Re: Google Talk Is Being Discontinued

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Post by mooreniemi » Fri, Mar 31, 2017, 1:38 AM UTC

jpttsn wrote: post #253

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #123

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Perhaps this is the point we need legislation to require that IM services with above X users in the relevant jurisdiction must provide a full, open, protocol and enable interoperation via the published protocol? That's the only way I see the companies involved would move to enable cross-platform communications? Aside: >It's a wonder we can send e-mails between many servers. I have a shared account on a small ISP, Mic…

World you be happy to put the offenders in prison? Or if they didn't pay fines, to show up and collect?

i kinda doubt anyone sees protocol violation as a criminal offense.

it's wild to me how quickly "we should find a market-external pressure source for forcing interoperability given the profit motive seemingly guarantees lack of federation because it relies on competition as its motive force" becomes "we must frogmarch innovators to the death pits"

Re: Google Talk Is Being Discontinued

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Post by jpindar » Sun, Apr 09, 2017, 7:45 PM UTC

st3v3r wrote: post #498

jpindar wrote: post #374

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On my Nexus 4, (Android 5.1.1), when I click on what used to be the email icon, I get a screen that says "Email has moved. The Gmail app now lets you view all of your email accounts." It has only one option (and a help link). That option is "TAKE ME TO THE GMAIL APP". How do I get to the plain email client?

You install it

From where?