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New MacBook Pro Is Not a Laptop for Developers Anymore

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Re: New MacBook Pro Is Not a Laptop for Developers Anymore

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Post by lostlogin »

woah wrote: post #441
bisby wrote: post #284

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As a vim user, esc is pretty important. I would say the author clearly knows very little computer specs: "The MacBook Pro had options with 2.4 gigahertz dual-core processors back in 2010. Anything new in 2016? Not really, well… nope." Because a 2010 2.4ghz dual core is identical to a 2016 2.4 ghz dual core.... I thought we got over comparing processors purely by their clock speed a long time ago. (I will agree that t…

I use a 12 inch MacBook on my lap in an office where I could have any number of external monitors. I'm quite productive.

My neck hurts and wrists cramp at this thought, at least put it on a desk!

Re: New MacBook Pro Is Not a Laptop for Developers Anymore

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Post by lostlogin »

woah wrote: post #441
bisby wrote: post #284

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As a vim user, esc is pretty important. I would say the author clearly knows very little computer specs: "The MacBook Pro had options with 2.4 gigahertz dual-core processors back in 2010. Anything new in 2016? Not really, well… nope." Because a 2010 2.4ghz dual core is identical to a 2016 2.4 ghz dual core.... I thought we got over comparing processors purely by their clock speed a long time ago. (I will agree that t…

I use a 12 inch MacBook on my lap in an office where I could have any number of external monitors. I'm quite productive.

My neck hurts and wrists cramp at this thought, at least put it on a desk!

Re: New MacBook Pro Is Not a Laptop for Developers Anymore

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Post by EugeneOZ »

lucisferre wrote: post #463
blowski wrote: post #391

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My laptop should work the way I want it to, not the other way around.

Then just map Esc to Caps Lock if you like. Unless you feel Caps Lock is still critical for commenting on YouTube videos, in that case I guess the new MBP is just a useless paperweight.

It will not remap his muscle memory.

Re: New MacBook Pro Is Not a Laptop for Developers Anymore

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Post by nogbit »

echelon wrote: post #111
ericjang wrote: post #37

I dislike this post intensely. The opinion comes across as uncharitable, as the author probably has not used this Macbook Pro yet. How can you (alexeysemeney) be so sure? I consider myself a developer, and I almost never use the Fn and ESC keys on my Mac. Everybody uses the computer differently, but I'm pretty sure this is not a deal-breaker for most. One could also argue that the touch bar might lead to innovative d…

I'm a vim user. Why in the world did they remove ESC? That's one of my most frequently used keys. And no, I don't think remapping it is a great idea. If I had to use this for work I would protest.

If on some box where you cant setup vim like you want, CTRL[ works as escape and CTRL[[ when in command-line mode.

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Post by patricius »

blowski wrote: post #391
boardwaalk wrote: post #318

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http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Avoid_the_escape_key

My laptop should work the way I want it to, not the other way around.

But any laptop you buy is a product of some design chosen by other people and not something you can make work precisely as you want. You've adapted to the designs already available, not the other way around.

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Post by blowski »

nikon wrote: post #485
blowski wrote: post #377

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Seems like the Developer Edition is EOL in the UK at least. I'll look for some reviews about the standard edition.

I thought this too, I then found this link which brings you to the Ubuntu XPS editions: http://pilot.search.dell.com/xps%2013%20ubuntu

Does sound like a great spec - but only available in the US right now. I'm in the UK.

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Post by anfogoat »

gurkendoktor wrote: post #466
Spartan-S63 wrote: post #371

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As a fellow Vim user, I don't use the escape key anymore. It's awkward to hit and I rebind it to "jj" (or more recently "jk"). It's unergonomic to reach for the escape key where it customarily is. If it were where Caps Lock is, it would make much more sense. That said, I don't like rotating my hand or remove my fingers from the home row. It's really a non-issue because you can rebind keys so easily, it's not even fun…

> If it were where Caps Lock is, it would make much more sense. macOS Sierra allows you to rebind Caps to the Esc key, which seems like a good compromise to me. As a non-vim user, I just wish I could bind Caps to other keys as well :(

Mapping caps to ESC is not really an option when you have it mapped to something else already, and I'd imagine a lot of devs do.

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Post by gurkendoktor »

bsbechtel wrote: post #203
ericjang wrote: post #37

I dislike this post intensely. The opinion comes across as uncharitable, as the author probably has not used this Macbook Pro yet. How can you (alexeysemeney) be so sure? I consider myself a developer, and I almost never use the Fn and ESC keys on my Mac. Everybody uses the computer differently, but I'm pretty sure this is not a deal-breaker for most. One could also argue that the touch bar might lead to innovative d…

You may never use the Fn and ESC keys (I hardly do either), but this does add to the list of events developers now need to handle in order to develop cross-platform compatible software.

Using function keys as shortcuts is already a terrible idea on macOS because these are used to control the screen brightness, volume, play/pause etc. The TouchBar might actually make it easier for new users to realise what the Fn key does.

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Post by tkxxx7 »

guelo wrote: post #387
rikkus wrote: post #255

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I've been a vi user since 1996 and have always remapped the Esc key because it's too far from home. I had assumed others also did this because I've never seen a vi user who works without some customisation on commonly used boxes and it seems like one of the obvious first changes to make.

This is bullshit. You know what else is not on the home row? Most of the keys on the keyboard. The ESC key is very easy to hit without looking down, there is absolutely no need to remap it and I refuse to believe that people that grew up with keyboards with ESC keys ever feel the need to remap it.

> This is bullshit. You know what else is not on the home row? Most of the keys on the keyboard.

...So? You know where you spend most of your time in Vim? the home row. It's called that for a reason...

I grew up with `esc` way up in the corner, and as soon as I started learning Vim I googled for common workarounds to reaching so far. Refuse to believe it, but it's true.

I've never been able to touch-type a function key on any keyboard, ever. Replacing them with a dynamic interface like the TouchBar seems fine for a row I have to look down at every time, anyway. Even on my 2015 MBP I have to make sure I'm hitting a volume button and not the power button.

Re: New MacBook Pro Is Not a Laptop for Developers Anymore

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Post by rayiner »

robotresearcher wrote: post #477
rayiner wrote: post #390

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The precision 5510 looks great, but: http://www.laptopmag.com/reviews/laptops/dell-precision-5510 . > This workstation can get some serious work done, but its battery life of 5 hours and 34 minutes means you likely won't be taking it far from your desk. The 13" rMBP gets 12 hours on the same test: http://www.laptopmag.com/articles/all-day-strong-longest-las... . I don't feel like I'm being unreasonably picky here. I'…

> Why can't anyone else? OS X vs. Windows?

Maybe. I think Apple sticking to 2.5K and 3K displays, instead of rushing to 4K has something to do with it.
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