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Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Yes, and while Thinkpad is excellent, it's not really a 'cool' option. The Surface Book's design (and price point) places it solidly as a competitor to Macs.

i'd take the rubber coated ones over the cold and sharp metal ones you call 'cool' any time. but i guess everyone in SF just use macbooks on their desks at all times.

thinkpad just feels like a solid, workhorse.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Could be a MBP replacement for developers. The only thing is those of us running on OS X, how is Windows 10? I love my command line and linux like commands and tools. - Homebrew - Bash scripts - Docker (Windows 10 currently not supported) - Vagrant I just feel the tooling for MS isn't in the direction I am. I still have a Windows 7 desktop and it's just not the same.

I use Windows as a desktop but have it host a VirtualBox Linux VM for my real work because I don't find either Windows or OSX acceptable for serious Linux development. OSX is actually more insidious because it sort of looks like Linux and makes you think it just about can be Linux, but it's just not. Under VirtualBox my development environment can match my production environment almost completely. There's no awkward…

I do something very similar when I'm on a workstation, but I've found that running a full VM is less than ideal on my laptop because of increased battery drain.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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I own one and that is definitely my experience. Most tablets are content consumption devices only. The SP3 allowed you to be a "little" productive on the go with a type keyboard, and a "lot" productive in the office with a dock and a real keyboard. If you want to be fully productive on the go, then I'd agree that buying a full laptop (e.g. Thinkpad, MBP) makes a lot of sense, and even then I'd still plug in a real mo…

Wow. I've used a SP3 hard for about a year now. I charge nightly, throw it in my bag daily, and cart it from meeting to meeting all day long. It's been great. I find the touchpad is excellent, I've not had problems with overheating (I mostly use Chrome and Office applications), and I'm happy with the power cord. My only critique is that the keyboard is a little louder than I'd like, and for that reason I'm considerin…

Coming from a rMBP 15", I found the SP3 touchpad was too small for me to use comfortably. But it was still usable.

Now that they have increased the size of the touchpad and made the keyboard better, I actually have a bit of a dilemma. You can customize the SP4 preorder with an i7 and 16GB of memory for cheaper than the Surface Book i7 with 8GB memory. I'm not sure how necessary the Nvidia card is for my purposes.

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That's what the OEMs get for not being able to put out a laptop that could compete with Apple in all those years, they always managed to introduce some fatal flaw in their premium laptops, from weird keyboard layouts to bad fan management software. Let's hope the Surface Book will be succesful and Apple finally gets serious competition in the premium laptop market.

Not having a Thinkpad-style nub mouse is a fatal flaw.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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We merged https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10340117 and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10340022 hither, since there shouldn't be three stories about this on the front page. Since the live event looks done now, we've picked (what I think is?) the most significant product URL to change to from http://www.microsoft.com/october2015event/en-us/live-event . If anyone suggests a better URL we can change it again.

I really like how this site does that, while other sites flood the front page with 8 threads of the same thing.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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yes very nice hardware, both the phone and the surface book. But the real standout here for me is continuum. This takes the logical next step where all the heavy lifting compute / storage happens remotely, and your "PC" doesn't need to be anything more powerful than the device in your pocket. I for one am overjoyed at not having to cart around a notebook, as the vast majority of my sit-down work happens in locations where monitors are available (ie office, home, client location, in that order of frequency. I personally don't do desktop-class work in trains/planes/coffee shops, even if I understand that there is a use case for this, and that's what the surfaces are for).

I'll even reconsider Windows now. My only slight concern is it would be great to get a slightly less clunky USB/HDMI docking cube. Did it have to be a cube? Surely a cable of some kind would have worked?

Now the only thing left is for Canonical (finally) to ship Unity 8 convergence. Please?

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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That's what the OEMs get for not being able to put out a laptop that could compete with Apple in all those years, they always managed to introduce some fatal flaw in their premium laptops, from weird keyboard layouts to bad fan management software. Let's hope the Surface Book will be succesful and Apple finally gets serious competition in the premium laptop market.

Yep - for example, Windows 10, although being rather nice update, changed start menu to XAML (in a separate process), and a result is that when I press the Win button on my i5 with new SSD, either nothing happens (missed keystroke? really??) or I wait up to 5 seconds.

Needless to say, all keystrokes before it opens are missed, so Win + type program name + enter turns into Win ... wait ... type program name ... wait some more ... enter.

Also, touchpad drivers. They sold more macbooks to PC laptop owners than anyone else.

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Ah, you were talking about third party hardware :).

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Exactly this ... outside of ThinkPad, many Windows hardware options have been pretty embarrassing.

ThinkPad is pretty embarrassing; you're supporting a company that decided to MITM all its users traffic to inject advertising using factory-installed malware by trusting the same certificate, whose private key can be extracted from any Lenovo product and trivially used to MITM all the others. Lenovo needs to fail hard and fast. I recognize we'll probably never get those responsible into prison, but at least we can ma…

I support the company that makes the closest thing to a product I want. Reimaging the computer is a lot easier than installing your own pointing stick.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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I'm running Windows 10 with multiple Linux server distros in the background. Hyper-V shuts them down and brings them up with Windows. WinSCP is my file manager and Putty is my terminal. I prefer this over OS X on Apple hardware because I can get the exact Unix experience that I want without having to fight with Apple about who is in control of the machine. Perhaps more importantly, I get the desktop experience that I…

If you haven't tried it out I'd suggest checking out SuperPutty ( https://github.com/jimradford/superputty ) - it allows for multiple Putty windows in a tabbed interface.

Thanks for this! I'm using putty and without tabs it drives me nuts. When I read the GP comment my first thought was "yeah same but tabless terminals sucks!" Then I saw your comment.

Didn't know about super putty - switching today.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Wow, this page is a mess - here's an element based breakdown of the switching elements in their presentation: MSFT: - nav 1 - nav 2 - header with what sounds like a call to action, but no button to buy? - hero image with text overlaid that has terrible contrast nobody will read - inter-page menus with some insane zooming function that scared my browser - another hero image - 3 columns - maybe buttons? no not clickabl…

So the Surface Book must be a fantastic device. Given that there's seems nothing else to hate about ...

Since the presentation of information is so broken that we have no clue what it is, hating on the web page is pretty much the only thing to hate about.
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