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Nexus 4 battery bloating

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Re: Nexus 4 battery bloating

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After I updated my Nexus4 to 5.1.1 the entire device randomly heats up so hot you can't even hold it. Not worth debugging since I don't want it to explode in my face so I junked it.

I've noticed worse energy consumption as well, I wonder if this has been reported anywhere.

Re: Nexus 4 battery bloating

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I just replaced the battery in my Nexus 5 due to earlier stages of the same issue. The battery failure was causing a lot of random device shutdowns that I had initially thought were related to the rollout of Lollipop. There's a long support thread of people with similar issues at: https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/nexus/IJSOuc7... Several of the posters there noticed that their battery had started bulgin…

Ah, the infamous "random shutdown" of the Nexus 4. It has caused me to be 30 minutes late at work a few times that one. It's annoying really because in the end, there is absolutely NO accountability from either LG or Google that the battery won't work as expected after about two years. Thing is, the price range of the Nexus 4 doesn't exist in the Google mobile lineup anymore, with the Nexus 5 being about twice as exp…

I was using an N4 for over two years... I had the random shutdown/reboot issues as well. When Google nix'd their value lines last year when I was ready for a new phone, I waited a while, and finally bought an NVidia Shield 8" tablet, and a OnePlus One phone. Probably the closest things to heir apparent to the N4/N7 devices.

I have friends who have been happy with Moto G and Blu Studio phones on the lower end.

Re: Nexus 4 battery bloating

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Ah, the infamous "random shutdown" of the Nexus 4. It has caused me to be 30 minutes late at work a few times that one. It's annoying really because in the end, there is absolutely NO accountability from either LG or Google that the battery won't work as expected after about two years. Thing is, the price range of the Nexus 4 doesn't exist in the Google mobile lineup anymore, with the Nexus 5 being about twice as exp…

Yeah it's so frustrating that what I consider the prime price range for mid-range but well built phones existed for awhile, but has since ceased to. Between that and Google Fi sounding great but only being supported by one of these expensive and unwieldy mini-tablets, I guess I'm just outside Google's target market.

Yeah it's so frustrating that what I consider the prime price range for mid-range but well built phones existed for awhile, but has since ceased to.

Did it? You can pick up a 2014 Moto X for $299. You even get to customize it to your own taste. This phone has nice specs and near-vanilla Android. (Love my Moto X 2014 with cognac leather back :). Though, I bought it when is was still 200 above the current price.)

I hear that the Asus Zenfone 2 is also pretty ok. In Europe it's a little more than 300 Euro for the variant with 4GB RAM and 32 GB storage (there are some cheaper variants as well).

Re: Nexus 4 battery bloating

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I stopped placing so much brand premium on "Made By Google", at the end of the day, you are at the mercy of the manufacturer. My google nexus phone was clunky, slow, randomly freeze and restart during phone conversation. When you dropped it the battery and back lid would fall out or not fit properly. I nearly gave up on Android. Then my asus nexus 7 screen shattered when I dropped it with replacement cost that made i…

The Moto X is also great. It's only $299 these days (Amazon or Moto maker), has flagship specs, near vanilla Android with some useful extensions (touchless control, active notifications), and I really like the build quality.

My wife and I both have one. The primary thing that I miss compared the Moto G (EU) and some other models is dual-SIM.

Re: Nexus 4 battery bloating

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> its battery has reached or is near EOL by any reasonable metric assuming daily use. Someone tell that to the battery in my Nokia 6230i from 2007, cause it's been used daily and it doesn't seem to mind :) Seriously, though, what makes you think that a 2-3 year battery is at or near EOL? Battery life depends on a lot of factors and even then it should lose capacity not swell and explode.

Because modern smartphones, unlike your Nokia, work batteries very hard. They discharge more, get charged more often, have more capacity, have less room in the case for cooling, run hot in general, etc. I don't think its controversial to say that 3 year old phones may start having problems. If this was the new Nexus 6, yes, then there would be a lot of concern, but telling me a budget phone from 2012 is having batter…

Typing on an n4 here..

I find it unacceptable that the phone's life is now limited by the battery. Where can you buy a new n4 battery now? Nowhere.. Yet the rest of my hardware is fine

At the time of purchasing the n4, I had tried to find another decent smart phone with a replaceable battery but didn't find anything suitable. My next phone won't be with Google and I'll instead be looking for something whose replacement battery will still be around, manufactured and not out of date in 3+ years (a guy can dream)

Re: Nexus 4 battery bloating

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post #44

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> its battery has reached or is near EOL by any reasonable metric assuming daily use. Someone tell that to the battery in my Nokia 6230i from 2007, cause it's been used daily and it doesn't seem to mind :) Seriously, though, what makes you think that a 2-3 year battery is at or near EOL? Battery life depends on a lot of factors and even then it should lose capacity not swell and explode.

Because modern smartphones, unlike your Nokia, work batteries very hard. They discharge more, get charged more often, have more capacity, have less room in the case for cooling, run hot in general, etc. I don't think its controversial to say that 3 year old phones may start having problems. If this was the new Nexus 6, yes, then there would be a lot of concern, but telling me a budget phone from 2012 is having batter…

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Re: Nexus 4 battery bloating

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Interestingly enough, my beloved Nexus 4 just died this past month. I noticed it getting extremely hot, and then one day started a boot loop that I could not fix. I figured some hardware broke. My uncle also picked up one around the same time, and is going through similar problems - overheating and rebooting, though has no boot loop issues. I will warn him of this battery issue. On another note, I just purchased a Ze…

I was having lunch with a friend yesterday and as we were getting up to leave he pulls his phone out of his pocket and announced "My Nexus 4 just exploded." As he shows it to us you can see the bloated battery had almost completely separated the back cover from the case. It had apparently been acting up for about a week before the battery expanded. Surprisingly it was still on and working.

Of course this happens with other manufacturer's batteries too. I had this happen with a kindle fire (first generation) and Amazon replaced the unit free of charge. I also had this happen with the battery for my late 2011 17" MacBook Pro. I walked into an Apple store handed it to a clerk and said I needed that one to be disposed of and to purchase a new one since I was out of warranty. He took it to a genius who said something along the lines of "Oh shit, that's a defect just give him a new one" and off I went with a free new battery.

Re: Nexus 4 battery bloating

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I had 8 batteries bloat on my Galaxy S II, I assume it was mostly to the CPU running at 100% heating up the battery while draining it really fast.

Ever since using Cyanogenmod instead of the official ROMs and being more aware of the over heating issue, my battery "consumption" dropped.

Re: Nexus 4 battery bloating

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What's funny is that your Nexus phone & tablet weren't made by Google, but the Moto G actually technically was (Motorola Mobility was their subsidiary at the time).

That's a legal fiction though; Google had no effect on Motorola Mobility beyond shuffling finances and patents.

Dennis Woodside, Motorola CEO during the Googlerola era, had been at Google since 2003. I can't imagine that Google had nothing to do with Motorola going (near-)Vanilla Android. Also, the "soft" (Googlish?) industrial design of the Moto line marks a rather distinct break from the very angular design of, say, the Droid.

Re: Nexus 4 battery bloating

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That's actually a cut of a longer video. What's missing is the beginning, where they stab the battery with a knife. Unless you pierce a battery, that kind of combustion is unlikely to happen. If it swells up to the point where the casing fails it could, but you'd probably notice that before it became a dangerous issue.

However, it's particularly dangerous on RC aircraft, which can crash and puncture the battery. The battery on my quadcopter fell out while 20 meters high directly over concrete and it puffed up, but didn't catch fire. I discharged it with a light bulb and buried it with a cup full of sand in my yard.

Burying a lithium battery in your yard seems like a pretty terrible way to dispose of it. Could you not take it somewhere for recycling, especially since you discharged it? Doesn't the typical AT&T/T-Mobile/Target/Best Buy/Etc store have a recycling drop-off for old cell phones and batteries?
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