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Re: Show HN: Reddit alternative – decentralized social news site, no censorship

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Post by pervycreeper »

minimaxir wrote: post #6

Let's look at what happened to Voat. After people claimed Reddit was censoring users by banning /r/fatpeoplehate, the more unsavory users flocked to Voat, a blatant Reddit clone. As you would expect, said unsavory people posted unsavory content. Said unsavory content, while free and uncensored, was not legal , and that causes problems: http://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/3avyem/voat_... Said issues caused…

Not sure how that's relevant. Voat appears to have too few differentiating features to be a significant threat to reddit. Frizbee, on the other hand, appears to be something genuinely new. As far as the other claims in that post go, the administrator of 8chan has compiled a more accurate recounting of this controversy here: https://medium.com/@infinitechan/what-do-we-know-about-voat-...

Re: Show HN: Reddit alternative – decentralized social news site, no censorship

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Post by eevee »

bhouston wrote: post #39
minimaxir wrote: post #6

Let's look at what happened to Voat. After people claimed Reddit was censoring users by banning /r/fatpeoplehate, the more unsavory users flocked to Voat, a blatant Reddit clone. As you would expect, said unsavory people posted unsavory content. Said unsavory content, while free and uncensored, was not legal , and that causes problems: http://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/3avyem/voat_... Said issues caused…

Diss Voat.co as much as you want, but so far Voat.co is actually a pretty huge success: http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/voat.co

Reddit is rank 32. Hacker News is rank 1,859. Bulbapedia, the Pokémon wiki, is rank 4,101. Voat is rank 25,171.

I don't think I understand your definition of "huge success".

Re: Show HN: Reddit alternative – decentralized social news site, no censorship

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Post by milkworsethan »

koko775 wrote: post #10

No censorship as in no moderation? No thanks. No censorship as in no punishing the stalking and threatening of others? Also no thanks. I want free speech where people are free with their speech, not unrestrained speech (specifically) where people feel free to hurt others.

Translation: I want free speech except I want people I don't like to not have it.

Re: Show HN: Reddit alternative – decentralized social news site, no censorship

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Post by austenallred »

It looks like you're off to a good start. There's design cleanup to do, for sure. Ya, there are buts that people can clear cookies and vote again - welcome to the world of building social news software.

There will be two key moments with this: 1. Will people stick around after this is off the front page of HN?

2. When people decide to game your site, how well do you handle voting rings? The reddit founders have mentioned that nearly half of their code catches voting rings; that's not trivial to do. And of course, it may be premature optimization, but it is something to consider that anyone with a few minutes of time to build a bot could completely destroy your site.

Re: Show HN: Reddit alternative – decentralized social news site, no censorship

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Post by austenallred »

minimaxir wrote: post #6

Let's look at what happened to Voat. After people claimed Reddit was censoring users by banning /r/fatpeoplehate, the more unsavory users flocked to Voat, a blatant Reddit clone. As you would expect, said unsavory people posted unsavory content. Said unsavory content, while free and uncensored, was not legal , and that causes problems: http://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/3avyem/voat_... Said issues caused…

Had no idea Voat was run by a sixteen-year-old. That's pretty impressive. The poor kid must be peeing his pants trying to figure out how to keep the site up and having no money for servers.

Re: Show HN: Reddit alternative – decentralized social news site, no censorship

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Post by __z »

x0 wrote: post #31
frizbee wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi, Just to clarify, the owners of particular playlist servers can moderate them as they choose. The difference is that because of the decentralization aspect, it is not chosen by a central entity.

If this website is another reaction to reddit, you're only going to attract the absolute dregs of that site — /r/fatpeoplehate, the pedophiles, the gamergaters, etc. If someone creates a Frizbee server full of child abuse material, and it becomes popular, and is always on the front page, what would you do? Also, I made a comment on Frizbee that consisted of `[wow](file:///etc/passwd)`, and it let me post it. You prob…

what does [wow](file:///etc/passwd) do?

Re: Show HN: Reddit alternative – decentralized social news site, no censorship

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Post by gruez »

colordrops wrote: post #22
empressplay wrote: post #2

It's a bit of a stretch to call this "decentralised" when it still relies on software running on a "master" server (your bot.) Second, if it is indeed fully anonymous, won't it just become a haven for trolls?

What about using bitcoin as a voting mechanism? That would get rid of trolls, or at least the poor ones.

that has the unsavory effect of money = votes

Re: Show HN: Reddit alternative – decentralized social news site, no censorship

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Post by ossreality »

milkworsethan wrote: post #53
koko775 wrote: post #10

No censorship as in no moderation? No thanks. No censorship as in no punishing the stalking and threatening of others? Also no thanks. I want free speech where people are free with their speech, not unrestrained speech (specifically) where people feel free to hurt others.

Translation: I want free speech except I want people I don't like to not have it.

Not really. koko775 spelled it out and you decided to just put words in their mouth.

Re: Show HN: Reddit alternative – decentralized social news site, no censorship

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Post by eevee »

milkworsethan wrote: post #53
koko775 wrote: post #10

No censorship as in no moderation? No thanks. No censorship as in no punishing the stalking and threatening of others? Also no thanks. I want free speech where people are free with their speech, not unrestrained speech (specifically) where people feel free to hurt others.

Translation: I want free speech except I want people I don't like to not have it.

In what language does "stalking and threatening and hurting others" translate into "people I don't like"?
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