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Re: 8^8 – Find another you

#51

Post by tajen »

TheMakeA wrote: post #45

There seems to be an awful lot of gratuitous negativity going on here. The site was on Reddit yesterday, now it's on the front page of HN. Maybe the author can't throw a lot of resources at it, or they used the project as an excuse to learn a new stack. Who knows. Maybe it was slow for you. Maybe it's not a mathematically sound idea. Maybe the questions aren't ideal. The CAPTCHA isn't ideal. Who cares? There's no nee…

> There seems to be an awful lot of gratuitous negativity going on here.

There isn't much negativity above your comment, no-one above you has criticized the speed or the CAPTCHA. Were you referring to a specific comment without using the reply-to feature? Are you saying the HN community is "mean" about it?

Most people on HN are very positive even if the project is slow, because everyone knows what it means to be on the top page of HN.

Re: 8^8 – Find another you

#52

Post by beloch »

"If you take the 8^8 test right now all our services will be 100% free for you. This offer is good only for those taking the 8^8 test before we reach the milestone of 1,000,000 tests taken. Thereafter, to cover server costs, there will be a modest fee for connecting with matches. "

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I'm usually pretty pessimistic about the motives of websites like these. For example, this site seems like a great way to get a huge database of marketing info associated with email addresses. Nowhere on the main page or in their faq does it say they won't be selling this data, so they probably will. Use your spam-address if you're going to do this!

That being said, someone just like me also wouldn't pay for a service that's likely going to sign them up for spam. Given that payment will be required long before the odds favour a match for me showing up, I think I'll just skip it.

Re: 8^8 – Find another you

#53

Post by SCHiM »

I love the idea! Since I personally believe that every person has a 'perfect match'. To those who don't, consider the following:

1) You either do or don't get along with certain people.

2) This is determined by how they act, look and your dispositions to those actions and looks.

3) Given these terms for quantifying the amount of 'like' you feel towards a person, it follows that there are combinations of act/look that you absolutely loathe or love.

4) There exists a combination of act/look that is your perfect match, the combination that you love the most, ie. Your soulmate.

What does not follow is that you would like someone who, as the site puts it, is very much like you. I'm quite sure I couldn't stand myself in certain situations. Maybe your soulmate is actually someone who is entirely unlike you in certain aspects?

EDIT:

Also it's likely, at least in my case, that some of the questions don't have the options you'd pick. I guess it kinda proves that 8 options over 8 questions can't be used to arbitrarily identity a person.

Re: 8^8 – Find another you

#55

Post by david-given »

matheist wrote: post #6
ColinWright wrote: post #2

To prevent abuse, we need to ensure that everyone taking the 8^8 test is a human and not a bot. Click on all of the icons below that represent animals. And then the site is so slow it only shows me 5 of 7 images, the other two failing to load. Good one. Don't get me wrong, it's a cute idea, although I have to say that I'm not sure I'd get along with someone who thinks exactly as I do. Edit: I've passed the spam test…

And if there are always 3 animals (like on mine), then one out of every 35 (= 7 choose 3) bots will get through it anyway. Even if each picture is uniformly and independently an animal or non-animal, one out of every 128 bots will get through. If bots are a problem, maybe use a stronger captcha. It sounds like a neat idea but it's taking too long to load for me to check it out. I'll try again later.

I got two animals and a bird.

Whether I click on just the animals or all three of them is part of the test, right?

Re: 8^8 – Find another you

#56

Post by Nadya »

gattis wrote: post #49
Nadya wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even distribution is not the goal. Finding like-minded matches is the goal. From a purely statistical standpoint - their claim is false about the roughly 1 in 16,777,216 chance. But the goal is to find like-minded people. Let's create a 1 question True/False test. Let's assign the probability of answering True on the question is 70% and answering False is 30%. You give the test to 100 people. You now have 35 pairings…

Even distribution is just important for doing it in as few questions as possible. If you want to do it in 8, and cover 16M distinct personalities, you're gonna need them to be very evenly distributed. Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy_%28information_theory%2... Information gain is maximized when the distribution is even. Imagine a very extreme biased form of this where everyone answers the same way to a…

There have been 0 matches with over 12,000 tests. Assuming their claim of 1/1,000~ is anywhere near remotely true - then you may have increased your chances of finding a 'good match' tenfold already with the assumption that matches will be good (there is of course the chance they won't be)

The Myers-Briggs places weight on questions to give one of the 16 personality types made of 8 traits. For example, one answer might give you 80% of INTJ and 20% INTP and by factoring the weights across all the questions will tell you if you were weighted more or less towards INTJ or INTP, even if you were more INTJ for that singular question.

In 8x8 the questions are not weighted in that way, which is an important difference. While there are 16 distinct personality traits in MBTI, there are only 8 traits. Questions can weigh towards those 8 traits in various ways. From my experience MBTI tests range from the 5 "strongly, disagree, neutral, agree, strongly" answer types and the questions are targeted to 2 (sometimes 4, but typically 2) traits.

Meaning if neutral is 50% : 50% (Not leaning towards introvert or extrovert) your answer to the question is effectively meaningless. However if you "agree" it might be 75% : 25% and if you "strongly agree" it could be 100% : 0%. You take the aggravated ratings of all the "I or E" type questions and determine if the user is introverted or extroverted based on which holds more weight across 50 questions.

8x8 does not weight the questions to determine personality traits. The questions must match exactly to determine a match. In comparison, Myers-Briggs can have two people be INTJ who answered questions very differently but their aggregated weights of each question added up to them both being an INTJ.

Again: this should be treated as a case study. Since questions aren't weighted, this is different than most personality tests. This isn't a personality test - but finding someone who thinks exactly as you do in regards to these 8 questions.

The largest flaw is if these are the wrong 8 questions to ask and if matches lean towards "good" or not. Which can be determined after enough matches. Making this a neat case study. :)

E:

TL;DR If 12,000 people took a MBTI I guarantee there would be many matches already. This isn't a personality test - this is a line of thinking test. Whether the questions will result in good matches or not will be left to when there are any matches to begin with.

Re: 8^8 – Find another you

#57

Post by DanBC »

tajen wrote: post #51
TheMakeA wrote: post #45

There seems to be an awful lot of gratuitous negativity going on here. The site was on Reddit yesterday, now it's on the front page of HN. Maybe the author can't throw a lot of resources at it, or they used the project as an excuse to learn a new stack. Who knows. Maybe it was slow for you. Maybe it's not a mathematically sound idea. Maybe the questions aren't ideal. The CAPTCHA isn't ideal. Who cares? There's no nee…

> There seems to be an awful lot of gratuitous negativity going on here. There isn't much negativity above your comment, no-one above you has criticized the speed or the CAPTCHA. Were you referring to a specific comment without using the reply-to feature? Are you saying the HN community is "mean" about it? Most people on HN are very positive even if the project is slow, because everyone knows what it means to be on t…

Did you see this post and thread, asking HN to avoid gratuitous negativity?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9317916

Re: 8^8 – Find another you

#59

Post by rl3 »

mayli wrote: post #28
hvm wrote: post #19

Yeah, the site is painfully slow. A site with a multiple choice test should handle thousands of users at a time with a tiny server. How is this thing made?

Same here, got ERR_CONNECTION_RESET when trying to click next.

Likewise. Oh well, soulmates are overrated anyways.

Re: 8^8 – Find another you

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Post by sumitviii »

TheMakeA wrote: post #45

There seems to be an awful lot of gratuitous negativity going on here. The site was on Reddit yesterday, now it's on the front page of HN. Maybe the author can't throw a lot of resources at it, or they used the project as an excuse to learn a new stack. Who knows. Maybe it was slow for you. Maybe it's not a mathematically sound idea. Maybe the questions aren't ideal. The CAPTCHA isn't ideal. Who cares? There's no nee…

It promised something great. But it turned out to be just a frontend project.
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