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Did I ever mention that I fucking hate the fucking web

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Re: Did I ever mention that I fucking hate the fucking web

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Post by avian »

harel wrote: post #13

Phone -> USB Cable -> Computer. Transfer images via said cable. Select images, put in email and send to mum. Having said that - all his points are valid, though I'm not sure I'd bother to get that angry at stuff that is out of my contorl.

Does this actually work for you with a recent Android phone?

On my Moto G, this is more like: connect USB cable, wait 2 minutes while the computer is mounting the MTP. See it fail. Unconnect cable, reconnect. Forgot to unlock screen on the phone. Unconnect cable, reconnect. Wait another 2 minutes. The drive mounts now. Select photos. Copy. Paste to hard drive. Wait 10 minutes while the computer is copying the files. See it fail with a cryptic error.

Utterly useless. From what I hear, this is a normal experience since Android switched from using USB mass storage to MTP.

Re: Did I ever mention that I fucking hate the fucking web

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Post by TeMPOraL »

a_bonobo wrote: post #38
Aoyagi wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's still a pain if said device doesn't support USB OTG and you have to deal with MTP.

Sometimes USB isn't an option: The USB interface on my old Samsung Galaxy S2 broke (seems to be a common problem), now the connection just charges, data transfer is borked under Windows and Linux. So I thought it would be "easy" to use WLAN for that - Samsung itself wants you to use "Kies", proprietary software which works only under Windows. Once I had located the right old version for my apparently-too-old phone, I…

I used https://www.airdroid.com/ for that; it gives you reasonable, LAN-speed downloads.

Re: Did I ever mention that I fucking hate the fucking web

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Post by coolnow »

a_bonobo wrote: post #38
Aoyagi wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's still a pain if said device doesn't support USB OTG and you have to deal with MTP.

Sometimes USB isn't an option: The USB interface on my old Samsung Galaxy S2 broke (seems to be a common problem), now the connection just charges, data transfer is borked under Windows and Linux. So I thought it would be "easy" to use WLAN for that - Samsung itself wants you to use "Kies", proprietary software which works only under Windows. Once I had located the right old version for my apparently-too-old phone, I…

You can't blame the (quite old) phone for being difficult when one of the main interfaces is broken. And there are many apps that let you explore your phone via wifi instead of using Kies. Just searching "wifi file transfer" or "wifi file manager" gives you plenty of hits.

Re: Did I ever mention that I fucking hate the fucking web

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Post by coolnow »

avian wrote: post #51
harel wrote: post #13

Phone -> USB Cable -> Computer. Transfer images via said cable. Select images, put in email and send to mum. Having said that - all his points are valid, though I'm not sure I'd bother to get that angry at stuff that is out of my contorl.

Does this actually work for you with a recent Android phone? On my Moto G, this is more like: connect USB cable, wait 2 minutes while the computer is mounting the MTP. See it fail. Unconnect cable, reconnect. Forgot to unlock screen on the phone. Unconnect cable, reconnect. Wait another 2 minutes. The drive mounts now. Select photos. Copy. Paste to hard drive. Wait 10 minutes while the computer is copying the files.…

On a Nexus 5, sure, it works. Both Mac and PC. Sister's Moto G, same thing.

Once on my Nexus 5 i got an error about copying a folder with lots of contents (some kind of backup i did i think). It forced me to archive it via a file manager on the phone and then transfer that instead. Only happened once though, and on Mac, which needs a standalone app to communicate with the device.

Re: Did I ever mention that I fucking hate the fucking web

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Post by bontoJR »

Kenji wrote: post #5

He's right. What surprises me is the readiness of people to put up with that shit. I'm not sure if their patience with horrible design is just a result of their ignorance.

I don't think is ignorance, but I think is mostly a lack in a better solution to compare with. I mean, if you have something that works great (in any field, not just tech), you take it as yardstick. If you don't have a real super-nice-outstanding solution to compare with, you will be always ok with what's coming, even if it's the worst implementation ever made.

I agree with 90% of the points in the article, but I also know that others have implemented similar solutions and only fews have, instead, tackled the same problems with a different, better implemented, solutions.

Anyway, the most annoying example is Skype, I really hate the "oh it looks like is a Live Account, redirecting..." flow, it's annoying.

Re: Did I ever mention that I fucking hate the fucking web

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Post by ishtu »

avian wrote: post #51
harel wrote: post #13

Phone -> USB Cable -> Computer. Transfer images via said cable. Select images, put in email and send to mum. Having said that - all his points are valid, though I'm not sure I'd bother to get that angry at stuff that is out of my contorl.

Does this actually work for you with a recent Android phone? On my Moto G, this is more like: connect USB cable, wait 2 minutes while the computer is mounting the MTP. See it fail. Unconnect cable, reconnect. Forgot to unlock screen on the phone. Unconnect cable, reconnect. Wait another 2 minutes. The drive mounts now. Select photos. Copy. Paste to hard drive. Wait 10 minutes while the computer is copying the files.…

OS X Yosemite, OnePlus One with latest firmware: momental MTP mount and import with Photos app, no failures so far, no cryptic errors.
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