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Re: I have something to hide

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post #40

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Exactly. The phrase 'something to hide' has become synonymous with 'something illegal' or 'you're doing something wrong', when in reality everyone has things they simply wish to keep private.

'I have something to keep private' isn't as punchy. Also it doesn't go far enough. 'My entire life is private' is closer. Of course my public interactions aren't AS private; but still largely private (its nobody's business what laundry detergent I buy at the public supermarket).

I wasn't talking about the title of the article, but in general. Those in support of these surveillance programs have worked hard to conflate 'something to hide' with 'something illegal' so that most people will go along with them as they have 'nothing illegal to hide.'

Re: I have something to hide

#53

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It is the response to the argument that "If you don't have something to hide, you shouldn't mind having your rights trampled on" with the attendant presumption that anyone with something to hide must be a criminal or a T7t.

T7t? I'm not familiar with that term and my Google-fu is apparently not strong enough.

Like i18n or l10n: nine-letter word, starts and ends with "t", rhymes with "bogey man."

Edit: and no, I've never seen this particular abbreviation.

Re: I have something to hide

#54
post #52

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'I have something to keep private' isn't as punchy. Also it doesn't go far enough. 'My entire life is private' is closer. Of course my public interactions aren't AS private; but still largely private (its nobody's business what laundry detergent I buy at the public supermarket).

I wasn't talking about the title of the article, but in general. Those in support of these surveillance programs have worked hard to conflate 'something to hide' with 'something illegal' so that most people will go along with them as they have 'nothing illegal to hide.'

Agreed. Its the doublespeak used by those trying to make ubiquitous surveillance commonplace.

Re: I have something to hide

#55
post #46

"Would you allow a stranger to enter your home, and look around?" Yeah, that's how you make friends. Certainly not into government spying but this is a ridiculous comparison. Reminds me of those piracy ads that try to convince you not to download music by saying "you wouldn't download a car". It's like pretty different and of course I'd love to download a car. I'm down for the cause but I don't think talking to peopl…

Not really relevant but those anti-piracy ads say "You wouldn't steal a car", not download.

Re: I have something to hide

#56

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Isn't that still missing the point? We don't want to be spied on period, whether there are things to hide or not.

We need to get comfortable with the fact that having things to hide does not make us guilty, criminal, or unethical. Whether it's dick pictures, political views, or associations with questionable NSA targeted groups like UNICEF[1]. I argue that it's our responsibility to hide things to support freedom and democracy. http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2014/05/22/nsa_gchq_...

I firmly disagree. Hiding things is a hack; the actual solution is to change society such that exposure entails no significant consequences.

Sure, as a band-aid to make existing real people feel secure? Hiding things and keeping them hidden is fine. It's just an indicator of how far we as a society still have to go.

Do remember: "it's our responsibility to hide things to support freedom and democracy" is the exact argument used by the government against things like Wikileaks. The exact argument.

Re: I have something to hide

#57
post #3

I really appreciate the resources provided. But I'm not a fan of the website suggesting that I want/need privacy because I have something to hide.

Care to elaborate on the details of your most recent sexually-intimate encounter? ... That's what I thought. Everyone has something they don't want others to know.

I licked pussy. Since you're asking.

I'm perfectly okay with others knowing that. Why do you want to shame me for that?

Re: I have something to hide

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It is the response to the argument that "If you don't have something to hide, you shouldn't mind having your rights trampled on" with the attendant presumption that anyone with something to hide must be a criminal or a T7t.

T7t? I'm not familiar with that term and my Google-fu is apparently not strong enough.

Terrorist (It's like i18n stands for internationalization, )

Re: I have something to hide

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I was lazy to right a script to parse my server logs! But common, we are not using GoogleAnalytics :)

If you preach against tracking, the first rule is: do not track. do not store logs at all.

There is a huge difference between anonymous visitor statistics to measure various metrics of performance, and tracking unique digital footprints.

Re: I have something to hide

#60
post #46

"Would you allow a stranger to enter your home, and look around?" Yeah, that's how you make friends. Certainly not into government spying but this is a ridiculous comparison. Reminds me of those piracy ads that try to convince you not to download music by saying "you wouldn't download a car". It's like pretty different and of course I'd love to download a car. I'm down for the cause but I don't think talking to peopl…

Would you give me your email and password?

No.
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