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Bit.ly and Viglink Adding Affiliate Cookies on Shortened Links

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Re: Bit.ly and Viglink Adding Affiliate Cookies on Shortened Links

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This was discovered months ago: https://www.schaafpc.com/bitly-viglink-publisher/

As @DanBlake had mentioned, there is a serious FTC issue where individuals that were casually linking to a merchant are now unwittingly becoming advertisers. There's a decent snippet in the comments of the above link about that.

They claim that they are just turning non-affiliate links into affiliate links.

They also claim they are not overwriting other affiliate links.

So do they automatically recognize all other affiliate network redirects? What about direct linking affiliate programs? What about Pay-Per-Call programs? There are a number of ways this can go wrong and take money from other affiliates by hijacking the links.

Not to mention the fact that there is very little benefit to the merchant here - that is traffic that quite clearly they were getting anyways. There is complete intent to link to them, so why must they pay VigLink and Bit.ly for shortening the URL? That's a service being used by the individual linking to the merchant. It's not worth commissioning on, there's very little value to the merchant.

If you have an affiliate program with Viglink, please contact them and request they remove ALL URL shorteners from their program - it's not just bit.ly, it's tinyurl as well, and a couple others that I cannot recall at the moment.

Re: Bit.ly and Viglink Adding Affiliate Cookies on Shortened Links

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IANAL nor an affiliate marketing expert, but if I ran an affiliate program I would make that against the rules. It at least goes against the intent of the program, which is to reward/incentivize people who send you business. Everyone clicking these links was already going to your site, so bit.ly as an affiliate generates zero extra dollars in sales.

Stackexchange converts outbound amazon links to affiliate ones. (see https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/26964/auto-insertin... ) Would that be the same?

Hey I'm just a guy. Maybe Amazon figures it's better to police affiliate links lightly or that a bit of a giveaway to SO isn't such a bad thing. If I ran an affiliate program I probably wouldn't allow that behavior.

Re: Bit.ly and Viglink Adding Affiliate Cookies on Shortened Links

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I called this in 2009. URL shorteners are the gift that keep on giving. > We hope the shortener never decides to add interstitials or otherwise "monetize" the link with ads, but we have no guarantee. http://joshua.schachter.org/2009/04/on-url-shorteners

Its the easiest way to monetize them. I'm really surprised it took this long. One of the interesting things to look at is CTR and affiliate payout, you may find that only 30 - 40% of the affiliate links "stick" only because so many people between where the link is and the vendor end up trying to stomp on the affiliate tie in. It is an affiliate eat affiliate world out there.

Sometimes I wonder if you are just a ramblebot that looks for keywords and finds a semi-relevant story.

Re: Bit.ly and Viglink Adding Affiliate Cookies on Shortened Links

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Its the easiest way to monetize them. I'm really surprised it took this long. One of the interesting things to look at is CTR and affiliate payout, you may find that only 30 - 40% of the affiliate links "stick" only because so many people between where the link is and the vendor end up trying to stomp on the affiliate tie in. It is an affiliate eat affiliate world out there.

Sometimes I wonder if you are just a ramblebot that looks for keywords and finds a semi-relevant story.

Seeing that he is a member of the watson group at IBM, it just might be true ;)

Re: Bit.ly and Viglink Adding Affiliate Cookies on Shortened Links

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Let's just hope that when they do die, their link database is given to archive.org - http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=URLTeam#Dead_or_B... URL shorteners are a terrible idea.

URL shorteners are a great idea, but for very limited use cases. I think they only make sense when run by a particular service for use with that service's URLs, like t.co or db.tt, and live and die in tandem with the underlying service. General purpose URL shorteners are just time bombs waiting to go off. They'll die and break all of their captive URLs or they'll realize they need to make some money and do something…

Well third party URL shortners can be useful when you are sharing the URL via SMS or an IM, i.e., just for a quick share.

Re: Bit.ly and Viglink Adding Affiliate Cookies on Shortened Links

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...but then why use bitly?

Because its unlikely that you own a domain that short. They also own j.mp ...a 1 letter domain. Good luck getting one of those on your own :)

There is v.gd, run by the is.gd people.
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