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But how do you gain adoption of such a tech across clients and servers (which was the problem with pipelining) will be an interesting question to see
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Even so, the current certificate issuing process is lengthy and expensive. Requiring SSL would be a major hit to the mom-and-pop type websites that just want a simple webpage on their own domain for their business. They'd now have to pony up for an SSL cert, which at least doubles the website ownership cost, as well as potentially go through a very complex process to get the certificate issued. It also completely eli…
mom and pop brochure sites are not the sort who would be using spdy anyway, they'd just use http.
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This is a horrible idea. Yes, it would result in increased focus by some people on speed, but probably the same people who focus on "SEO". So now content relevancy has yet another adversary in the battle for SERPs. There's a LOT of really incredible, original content out there written by amazing people who do it in their spare time and don't give two shits about their SEO or the speed of their server, and now that co…
You are correct that SEO people would latch onto the idea and start producing faster sites. But so will many legitimate sites that want to provide a good user experience. Is that really so bad? I think that site speed does correlate with a better user experience. A site that loads quickly shows that the person who made it cares about my experience more than a bloated site that takes forever to load. I will admit that…
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The future of the internet is ubiquitous encryption. Better to break caching models ASAP so that fixing them can be done incrementally.
Provided we're using IPv6 exclusively. SSL removes the ability to do virtual hosting, which is why we didn't run out of IPs 5-10 years ago.
It is human nature that people don't do things that sound like hard work until they have to, and the continuing use of IPv4 with NAT and other hacks falls firmly into that camp.
(1) Every device becomes addressable again - I remember when it was normal to assume that devices could be reached directly, and would be fire walled if required. That led to a much greater number of people running services from their machine. From the perspective of a startup the idea that a client can run data services without some horrible hack is really interesting.
Impressive, how Google are taking on challenges that pretty much no other company could possibly address... replacing email... enhancing HTTP, etc... They're the only company with the means to take on such massive, unprofitable projects, and at the same time enough street cred that everyone won't immediately assume they're trying to make the web proprietary. The fact that they tend to open up these things from the ge…
They're the only company with the means to take on such massive, unprofitable projects, and at the same time enough street cred that everyone won't immediately assume they're trying to make the web proprietary. They are hardly the only company doing this. Microsoft Research do a ton of pretty visionary / far-reaching work, much of which has nothing to do with MS-proprietary platforms. For example, the VL2 architectur…
I wonder if Microsoft will one day redeem themselves to the public like IBM did?
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They're the only company with the means to take on such massive, unprofitable projects, and at the same time enough street cred that everyone won't immediately assume they're trying to make the web proprietary. They are hardly the only company doing this. Microsoft Research do a ton of pretty visionary / far-reaching work, much of which has nothing to do with MS-proprietary platforms. For example, the VL2 architectur…
Microsoft are long past the day when they were evil. It's just that, unfairly or not, if they tried to do this people would be going through the license with a fine tooth comb in the certain expectation of traps. I wonder if Microsoft will one day redeem themselves to the public like IBM did?
I don't regard the shameful approval of OOXML as an ISO standard, and all the questionable things Microsoft did in order to accomplish it, as a particularly nice thing to do. There are a lot of NBs that were formed specifically for that purpose that were never again heard from. As it is now, the damage to ISO seems irreversible.
Also, there is the trolling about "Linux infringes 4 bazillion of our patents" empty threats (because if they weren't empty they would have acted) and the failed attempt to sell some of those patents to trolls that would go after Linux users. The fact if failed (because a non-invited group won the auction and donated the patents) makes it not less evil.
No. Being evil is in their soul.
They may be less evil now - I can agree on that. But it's so much more because they are far less relevant now than they were in the 90s than any particular change of heart.
They deserve no redemption.
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They're the only company with the means to take on such massive, unprofitable projects, and at the same time enough street cred that everyone won't immediately assume they're trying to make the web proprietary. They are hardly the only company doing this. Microsoft Research do a ton of pretty visionary / far-reaching work, much of which has nothing to do with MS-proprietary platforms. For example, the VL2 architectur…
Another example: Simon Peyton-Jones and Simon Marlow, which make up a huge chunk of power behind Haskell and specifically GHC, are Microsoft researchers. (Although Haskell and GHC are not Microsoft projects, they get paid by Microsoft to work on them.)
This makes me uncomfortable.
You just don't trust your money to an apparently unarmed bank-robber.
The whitepaper has more information: http://dev.chromium.org/spdy/spdy-whitepaper Interesting parts: - "...make SSL the underlying transport protocol, for better security and compatibility with existing network infrastructure." Won't this break many caching models? - "...provides an advanced feature, server-initiated streams. Server-initiated streams can be used to deliver content to the client without the client nee…
The future of the internet is ubiquitous encryption. Better to break caching models ASAP so that fixing them can be done incrementally.
https://www.londonfgss.com/thread32727.html
It's just a community forum, but things like ACTA and the erosion of privacy that our government is gradually executing all make me really question whether there are downsides.
I'd originally made it available over SSL to help people access it from work without the proxies blocking it (works very well btw), but now it'll be everything.
As part of this I'm doing a review of the styles, images, javascript, etc to ensure that I perform as few requests as possible due to the lack of caching.
The software I'm using hasn't really considered requests. The view seems to have been "it's a one time hit and then it's cached", whereas in the SSL world you'll be good if you get a cached once-per-session model.
It also complexifies things on the back-end, thinking of things like software load balancing and pass-through requests.
All good stuff though, I get to learn about how to make this stuff work and scale at the same time as providing a great feature (privacy and security) to my users. Traditional models are worth breaking to gain these benefits.
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They're the only company with the means to take on such massive, unprofitable projects, and at the same time enough street cred that everyone won't immediately assume they're trying to make the web proprietary. They are hardly the only company doing this. Microsoft Research do a ton of pretty visionary / far-reaching work, much of which has nothing to do with MS-proprietary platforms. For example, the VL2 architectur…
Microsoft are long past the day when they were evil. It's just that, unfairly or not, if they tried to do this people would be going through the license with a fine tooth comb in the certain expectation of traps. I wonder if Microsoft will one day redeem themselves to the public like IBM did?