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Building an Empire with a Single Brick: Meet Patrick McKenzie

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Re: Building an Empire with a Single Brick: Meet Patrick McKenzie

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Making 30k a week, is very different from saying he made 30k some weeks. 120k in Profit is hardly something I would call an 'Empire'.

I appreciate the sentiments of this community, its unquestioning reverence towards Patrick, but the article is full of misleading statements. What is factually correct, can still be grossly misleading.

Re: Building an Empire with a Single Brick: Meet Patrick McKenzie

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It changes which projects you get, and alters the opportunity cost of the projects you end up spending time on.

This makes sense. Sort of, "If you charge more, you'll find yourself a specialist."

If you charge more, people don't bother you with nearly as much low-ROI scut work, which means you (assuming you can deliver) find yourself focusing on more interesting & more valuable work that has a stronger connection to attracting and keeping high-value clients.

Re: Building an Empire with a Single Brick: Meet Patrick McKenzie

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Making 30k a week, is very different from saying he made 30k some weeks. 120k in Profit is hardly something I would call an 'Empire'. I appreciate the sentiments of this community, its unquestioning reverence towards Patrick, but the article is full of misleading statements. What is factually correct, can still be grossly misleading.

Agreed, it does the Patrick and the community a disservice to embellish his accomplishments. They stand on their own just fine.

Re: Building an Empire with a Single Brick: Meet Patrick McKenzie

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post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This makes sense. Sort of, "If you charge more, you'll find yourself a specialist."

If you charge more, people don't bother you with nearly as much low-ROI scut work, which means you (assuming you can deliver) find yourself focusing on more interesting & more valuable work that has a stronger connection to attracting and keeping high-value clients.

Well, that, or you can't find work at all.

Re: Building an Empire with a Single Brick: Meet Patrick McKenzie

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$30k/week? Would love to read more about how that worked. I thought my $180/hour with $1k per diem for on-site was phenomenal. Jeez, I need to charge more.

"Would love to read more about how that worked. I thought my $180/hour with $1k per diem for on-site was phenomenal. Jeez, I need to charge more." Maybe not so fast. To me the 30k is (most likely) editorial hyperbole which is not to say Patrick didn't make $30k on some weeks. If you can make (repeatedly) 30k per week (or even 15k per week) that's a boatload of money on a yearly basis. So I would imagine that while Pa…

52-week year rate isn't the attraction for me. I'd rather focus on the lifestyle and opportunities provided by a few weeks a year at $30k a week.

Re: Building an Empire with a Single Brick: Meet Patrick McKenzie

#56
One of the things I loved about BCC is how it hit many of us over the head with the idea that a product does not have to be 'cool' or innovative or even really all that interesting to make money. Au contraire - bingo is about as uncool and boring as you can get. It kind of opens your mind to new horizons in business terms.

Re: Building an Empire with a Single Brick: Meet Patrick McKenzie

#57

Making 30k a week, is very different from saying he made 30k some weeks. 120k in Profit is hardly something I would call an 'Empire'. I appreciate the sentiments of this community, its unquestioning reverence towards Patrick, but the article is full of misleading statements. What is factually correct, can still be grossly misleading.

I'm not sure what "profit" means in the context of sole proprietorship. Is $120k his takehome pay? Or what's left after subtracting his own salary?

Re: Building an Empire with a Single Brick: Meet Patrick McKenzie

#58

Making 30k a week, is very different from saying he made 30k some weeks. 120k in Profit is hardly something I would call an 'Empire'. I appreciate the sentiments of this community, its unquestioning reverence towards Patrick, but the article is full of misleading statements. What is factually correct, can still be grossly misleading.

> I appreciate the sentiments of this community, its unquestioning reverence towards Patrick

I honestly don't. I mean, nice guy, sure, and a great writer, but I don't see that he has built anything I consider particularly inspiring, or successful. In fact he has had quite a few misses, which were announced with the usual self-assured write-ups, only to disappear later.

(I only say this in light of the surprisingly large following patio11 has, he is certainly more accomplished than I or most most posters here will probably ever be.)

Re: Building an Empire with a Single Brick: Meet Patrick McKenzie

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post #56

One of the things I loved about BCC is how it hit many of us over the head with the idea that a product does not have to be 'cool' or innovative or even really all that interesting to make money. Au contraire - bingo is about as uncool and boring as you can get. It kind of opens your mind to new horizons in business terms.

I'm curious about other projects created in the same vein that are making money. I saw a typing tutor webpage posted here on HN, and a stock portfolio tracking service, but don't know if they ever became profitable.

Re: Building an Empire with a Single Brick: Meet Patrick McKenzie

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While I accept this is likely true, I still have a hard time incorporating it into my thinking. I think I spent too much time as an employee, a relationship in which every increase in salary needs elaborate over-justification. Consulting isn't like that.

(Disclaimer: I've been an employee and a product startup founder but never a consultant.) I think the key idea here is that you can change who you hang with in consulting. The world is a really big place, and it's filled with some people who are willing to pay a lot for the particular services you offer, and a lot of people who are not willing to pay a lot. Raising your rates just means that you will self-select for…

I think the key difference (having done both) is that when you are consulting, a company is paying you (usually out of a pretty large budget) for a business outcome that they really, really want. When you are selling something that somebody with a lot of money really, really wants, you have a much easier time convincing them to pay you a lot of money. So your rate is really a function of those two things- perceived value of what you are delivering and how much they have to spend. It has nothing to do with what they pay other people who work there, etc.

When you apply to a job, they see you as a permanent cost center and not as an immediate way to grow their bottom line. In this case the negotiation changes to a large degree. I suppose it's possible to transfer the conversation during a salary negotiation so that you are selling based on the points above, but I think that's much easier said than done.

I think this constantly recurring point about raising rates is based on people who sell consulting services having a larger-than-necessary gap between what a company would pay for the outcome and what they are charging.

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