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Facebook iPhone Dev Quits Project Over Apple Tyranny

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Re: Facebook iPhone Dev Quits Project Over Apple Tyranny

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I'm not sure all of us see the quality benefits quite so obviously. Are you implying that dictionaries with censored words are better quality?

I challenge you to find a popular dicionary that isn't carefully curated. You can't just call up Webster and get a word added to the dictionary, there's a vetting process it has to go through.

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Re: Facebook iPhone Dev Quits Project Over Apple Tyranny

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You assume he works in the office...

and that he can still walk.

Thanks for the useless remark. From what I know, Joe does a lot of work from home.

(Note to self: HN is starting to get filled with the same sort of know-nothing, smart-ass comments that cause me to avoid places like TechCrunch)

Re: Facebook iPhone Dev Quits Project Over Apple Tyranny

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Smartphones, PDA's and other mobile-computing-platforms have been around for years (more than a decade). Almost all of them have provided third-party developers with a means of producing software for the platform. While some were more successful in this regard than others, none of them enjoyed the third-party-developer support that the iPhone now has, whether you measure that by number, quality or market share.

What's the difference? Were these other platforms made from inferior technology, relative to the state-of-the-art at the time? Did they have inferior marketing? Was cost-of-entry too high for most developers?

The app store approval process is one of the major differences between the iPhone and all preceding platforms. Is this just a coincidence?

If you find Apple's process unacceptable there are many (ie, all) other platforms that offer similar devices on which to distribute your work without oversight by their creators. If you want to develop for a successful platform then you'll need to learn to appreciate the traits that make it so, and while not perfect, the App Store approval process is a key factor in that success.

Re: Facebook iPhone Dev Quits Project Over Apple Tyranny

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I personally dont find the app very well made. Interesting outcome for the developer nonetheless.

It is the most popular free iphone app. That wouldn't be the case if it weren't well made. What don't you like?

There is a tremendous gulf between popularity and quality. If you'd like an illustration, go turn on a radio.

Re: Facebook iPhone Dev Quits Project Over Apple Tyranny

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The TC boys need a sense of perspective; while the App Store review process is terrible, it doesn't come close to being " tyranny ".

Came here to say the same thing. Author needs to go live somewhere where they can experience true tyranny.

Re: Facebook iPhone Dev Quits Project Over Apple Tyranny

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The TC boys need a sense of perspective; while the App Store review process is terrible, it doesn't come close to being " tyranny ".

Came here to say the same thing. Author needs to go live somewhere where they can experience true tyranny.

Relax -- it's just a metaphor. The iTunes App Store may not be under tyranny, but that's like saying it's not an ecosystem because binaries are nothing like living creatures (nor is it a platform because it's not a flat physical object, etc. ad absurdum).

Re: Facebook iPhone Dev Quits Project Over Apple Tyranny

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Almost everything in facebook is openly accessible via API if you've granted permissions to an applications to do so. We've seen services like Tweetdeck and Seesmic and Brizzly act like portals to the data. Things get complicated with friends' data of course. Facebook has a collection of your friends phone numbers, and data access permissions and storage rights get complicated.

You work at Facebook, I know you say that on your profile, but you should probably disclose that in comments supporting them.

I disagree. Bending over backwards to recuse myself would distract from the content of the comments. I've pretty much only stated facts here anyway.

If I start saying an opinion like Facebook is better than X, then I think you're right.

Re: Facebook iPhone Dev Quits Project Over Apple Tyranny

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Ummm, Facebook's wall is quite a bit less ominous than Apple's. You may want to return that irony to the store, they cheated you and watered it down.

The walls are still there. Facebook is still a roach motel for data and now they are going to be spanking platform developers whose apps are proving to be detrimental to Facebook's reputation and user experience. Same tune, different band.

IHNJ, IJLS spanking platform

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It is the most popular free iphone app. That wouldn't be the case if it weren't well made. What don't you like?

> It is the most popular free iphone app. That wouldn't be the case if it weren't well made. I believe iFart was fairly popular for a time (where popular is defined as "downloaded many times"), and it even cost money, putting a financial barrier to entry in front of potential users. Does that make iFart a well-made app though? I don't think so (though maybe you or others do). I think the Facebook app's popularity jus…

As far as farting simulation applications go, iFart was top notch.
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