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Funny to see some of HN hating on Morgan Stanley and Wall Street. You're biting the hand that feeds you...
Not all the hackers have gotten that memo though.
OP here. My original title was "The Inventor of C++, Bjarne Stroustrup Works at Morgan Stanley", and after 20 minutes, it somehow changed "Bjarne Stroustrup – Managing Director, Technology". WHAT'S GOING ON HERE?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
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You'd be surprised at how technically challenging/appealing financials can be. Ulrich Drepper also left Red Hat to work at Goldman Sachs ( https://www.linkedin.com/in/ulrichdrepper ). The algorithmic challenges, hardware optimization challenges etc in financials are nothing to scoff. Yeah, and the money is good as well. The work is not as 'sexy' as google, nasa, tesla but it is just as appealing to people who are int…
Are all these jobs in NYC? Do these finance companies have offices working on these issues in SV?
Now, I know my reply is only slightly related to your question, but I just saw this opportunity and took the effort to write all of this is to ^remind^ people that the world is not all about SV, or US, or startups, or IT, or technology ...
> What motivated you to leave academia to join Morgan Stanley? $$$ Don't get me wrong, nothing wrong with that, he's earned it. But the whole spiel about wanting to get back to solving real world problems... Come on, now. How about Google? NASA? Tesla? Plenty of real world problems to solve there tackling difficult problems. But Morgan Stanley? Decade old technology spending most of your time interfacing twenty year…
>Google? NASA? Tesla? Google seems to be pushing its own Go more. NASA is focused on space more than advancing the frontiers of programming. Tesla, maybe.
NASA does huge amounts of research into aerospace computing science. The first 'A' does stand for 'Air' after all.
Here's just the first example I plucked from the Ames website:
In this paper, a framework is proposed to enable a flight control system with optimal control allocation to incorporate real-time structural load feedback and structural load constraints.
$190 million of their budget for 2015 ( $885 million ) was allocated for pure science research and another $50 million for aerospace.
> What motivated you to leave academia to join Morgan Stanley? $$$ Don't get me wrong, nothing wrong with that, he's earned it. But the whole spiel about wanting to get back to solving real world problems... Come on, now. How about Google? NASA? Tesla? Plenty of real world problems to solve there tackling difficult problems. But Morgan Stanley? Decade old technology spending most of your time interfacing twenty year…
I think you greatly underestimate the programming challenges available in large investment banks, from "We ingest literally thousands of separate sources, many of them time-series, at the rate of gigabytes per second." to "How does one manage a programming team of ten thousand people split between six countries?" to "Where do we strike the balance between the-most-fault-tolerant-computer-is-one-that-is-powered-off an…
Agreed - they have some interesting technical challenges.
> "I wonder if we can do image recognition on spy satellite photos to count cars in parking lots to get an estimate of traffic to a retailer before they publish their quarterlies"
That, however, feels, at first glance, a bit zero-sum. Is that investment making the world better in some way?
Not that I think anything should get in the way of them doing stuff like that, but it feels a bit hollow in the grand scheme of things.
Ok, is it just me that thought it telling that all the folks in the carousel at the bottom of the page are wearing suits (and ties for the men) but Bjarne has a open necked shirt on? That said, I really resonate with this statement of his: "I wanted to get back to solving real-world problems." I tend to be most motivated when I've got a problem to solve which can be expressed in terms of real world gains (usually in…
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Not at all, I actually find that reason much more believable than the one he gives (joining Morgan Stanley to solve real world problems).
Right but even if so, that's a lame complaint. Are you completely honest in your life? I suggest watching Liar Liar again as research material.
Of course not, I say stupid things now and then, like everybody else. And I think it's perfectly fair for people to call me when I do.
I think Stroustrup's statement on his bio of the Morgan Stanley page is disingenuous, so I just call it.
His class is awesome for not only hearing his stories like why it's called C++ instead of ++C, but learning about all the little details in C++ today and what's to come for C++17 and on. If anyone has any questions they want me to ask him, I'd be happy to do so.
He still teaches a grad-level (I think?) course here at Columbia. How I envy the students in that class.
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I think you greatly underestimate the programming challenges available in large investment banks, from "We ingest literally thousands of separate sources, many of them time-series, at the rate of gigabytes per second." to "How does one manage a programming team of ten thousand people split between six countries?" to "Where do we strike the balance between the-most-fault-tolerant-computer-is-one-that-is-powered-off an…
> the programming challenges available in large investment banks Agreed - they have some interesting technical challenges. > "I wonder if we can do image recognition on spy satellite photos to count cars in parking lots to get an estimate of traffic to a retailer before they publish their quarterlies" That, however, feels, at first glance, a bit zero-sum. Is that investment making the world better in some way? Not th…
Now, if the the better-pricers manage to capture all the value they create, that is another question. But even then, they'll have to spend it sometime. A yacht builder is paid, and so on.