Introducing Messenger Platform and Businesses on Messenger

Post by sirkneeland » Thu, Mar 26, 2015, 3:42 AM UTC

th0br0 wrote: post #14

mladenkovacevic wrote: post #5

Oh look NSA had a product launch today. On a serious note I flirted with installing Messenger several times and couldn't go through with it after facing all the app permissions. As a platform I wonder if this will follow the same path as the Facebook Games/Apps platform. Rampant use, rise of at least one game company (Zynga), then gradual but consistent desertion. As a service for businesses, this is interesting and…

I agree with your stance on Messenger, yet I have found Cyanogen's Privacy Guard more than satisfying to limit Messenger's "spying" powers. Outside of the US(?) I don't think that this has got much chance of taking off. The legal / data privacy ramifications of support knowing a customer's fb profile and all the information contained therein are something I find quite difficult to quantify.

Post by nl » Thu, Mar 26, 2015, 5:27 AM UTC

jianshen wrote: post #27

com2kid wrote: post #25

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Stickers have been around since Yahoo Instant Messenger in the early 2000s. Official Accounts have also been in various IM programs. Meebo had a nifty implementation of this, but it has been done before. Payments might be original, not sure. It is at least new to the US market. Media Rich Sharing is also old hat, I recall YIM also having this to some extent. In the very least, they had games you could play with frien…

While I agree that all of these ideas have been thought of prior to the Asian chat apps, it's largely the similarity in execution that FB Messenger is taking compared to WeChat/ Line/KakaoTalk that the parent is talking about. One important thing that the Asian messengers have executed better than the others is monetization of IM, something which has eluded Western messengers for a long time. To this day, FB still do…

Post by mimighost » Thu, Mar 26, 2015, 7:52 AM UTC

sahara wrote: post #24

Kronopath wrote: post #4

Before anyone starts thinking this stuff is super-innovative and new, let me tell you what's really going on here: Facebook wants to make Messenger into a platform in the same way the big Asian chat apps are. Things like Weixin/WeChat or LINE. I mean, just look at the most recent additions to Messenger: - Stickers. These grew in popularity starting in Asian apps. [0] - Using Messenger for payments [1] and to send mon…

>All of these features were pioneered in Asia. They're either trying to bring the innovations westward in the hopes that they can build a similar platform, or they're defending against the possibility that foreign apps like this will expand and take over their marketshare. There's likely a third aspect: Fb (& Snapchat, et al) framing/reframing their services to be more familiar/comfortable for East Asian users as the…

Post by alexvoda » Thu, Mar 26, 2015, 11:24 PM UTC

com2kid wrote: post #48

jianshen wrote: post #47

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Y! Messenger monetized branded themes. National advertisers would pay for the experiences, users got to pick from branded backgrounds and emoticons. Chris Szeto, then Y! Messenger head, pioneered this revenue model. It was quite lucrative but then WebIM became a thing (a la Meebo) and the market shifted away from Desktop downloads. FF a few more years and we see Mobile eat WebIMs lunch. The cycle continues... Thanks…

Thank you for better knowing history! :)

Post by Shish2k » Fri, Mar 27, 2015, 11:14 AM UTC

mladenkovacevic wrote: post #5

Oh look NSA had a product launch today. On a serious note I flirted with installing Messenger several times and couldn't go through with it after facing all the app permissions. As a platform I wonder if this will follow the same path as the Facebook Games/Apps platform. Rampant use, rise of at least one game company (Zynga), then gradual but consistent desertion. As a service for businesses, this is interesting and…