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Re: Dustin Curtis's new web app

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Somebody has to say it: In the year 2009 snail mail is grossly inadequate. 1. Does it prove anything? No. Sign something with a private key, that is proof. 2. Is it better for record keeping? No. Fires, floods, and rot are all enemies. Storing it digital allows one to replicate a lifetime of mail in 10 seconds. 3. Aesthetic? Only if you have a strong packrat or nesting instinct. 4. Cheaper? No. Not by a fucking longs…

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Re: Dustin Curtis's new web app

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Wild, so he is actually folding, stuffing, and licking the stamp? At 6 cents/per he'd need over 100 mailings/hr to come out around minimum wage. I like the API idea, pdf idea, maybe .doc files.

You could do what those efax places do for free faxes and include an advertisement in the envelope. Hell, put advertisements on the envelope itself.

Re: Dustin Curtis's new web app

#55

Somebody has to say it: In the year 2009 snail mail is grossly inadequate. 1. Does it prove anything? No. Sign something with a private key, that is proof. 2. Is it better for record keeping? No. Fires, floods, and rot are all enemies. Storing it digital allows one to replicate a lifetime of mail in 10 seconds. 3. Aesthetic? Only if you have a strong packrat or nesting instinct. 4. Cheaper? No. Not by a fucking longs…

1. Public/private key authentication is, as of 2009, still not something the mainstream internet user can figure out to do easily. I'd guess most don't even know it exists.

2. I can also delete a lifetime of mail in 10 seconds. The steps required to redundantly store or back up data require either knowledge the layman doesn't have or expensive software (assuming they don't know of the free alternatives).

3. Letters are like books in that there will always be people who prefer the personal feel of paper and ink to a computer screen.

4. Agreed.

You seem to be assuming that his market is YC users or other techies. As stated in other comments, this has great applications for the elderly, non-techies, and people in other countries wanting to send mail to the US.

Re: Dustin Curtis's new web app

#56

There's a bunch of these services out there, but here's a couple that may be interesting: http://www.postful.com/ http://www.l-mail.com/ Both look pretty clean and offer various capabilities to send lots of letters more efficiently, including an API.

Compared to Dustin's though, both of those hurt my eyes to look at. This reminds me of Posterous, blogging is a crowded market but they differentiated themselves by being beautiful and dead simple. Competitors are good, it just proves that there's a market for a service like this.

Pretty much everything hurts my eyes compared to Dustin's work :)

In all seriousness, I thought Postful looked pretty good.

Re: Dustin Curtis's new web app

#57
I've just been pondering such a service, as the result of a friend of mine, being moved to an assisted living facility. He has no email there, and wouldn't be able to use it if he did. I would love to send him quick updates on my life and my kids, but, while I could spare him five minutes to dash off an email and attach some photos to it, the task of printing the photos on a color printer, finding his address, etc., usually gets the task procrastinated, sometimes for weeks, in that "I'll do it tomorrow" procrastination dance.

My thoughts on this line were as follows.

1) It needs to allow photos. They can be an extra charge of course, but I would want to send photos.

2) There's a ton of paper handling equipment out there. If you invested about $20K, maybe 10K if you bought used, I would think you could get a solution that was 100% automated. It printed, stapled, folded, printed the envelope, and stuffed the contents. A service with such an automated capability, that showed pictures of their equipment on their website so I knew it was real, would definitely be reassuring from a privacy standpoint, as well as a reliability standpoint.

3) As for API, my thought was to make the whole thing, just email. Parse incoming emails to confirm the sender is an account holder. Parse the email for the markup headers that you define to designate recipient address. If they don't exist, fire off a reply email to the same address, telling them they messed up and didn't mark up their submission properly. Done. No visiting your website at all, after I set up my account.

3a) I would also suggest a way for me to assign frequently used snail mail addresses as part of an email address. For example, say you assign me the email address QWERTY@mailservice.com. Whenever I mail to that address, you know it's my account, and send the contents of the appropriately marked up email to the recipients. OK, fine. But now, allow me to assign sub-addresses. So, for example, if I email QWERTY.terry@mailservice.com, and I've already defined the address of terry, now I don't have to mark up my email at all. I just put QWERTY.terry@mailservice.com into my email address book, and my friend Terry is the same as contacting anybody else with email. With such a system, mailing somebody and emailing somebody take exactly the same steps on my part. In fact, I can even CC them on an email I send to somebody else.

Re: Dustin Curtis's new web app

#58
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If this gets popular, you could hire a few helpers to handle the printing/mailing. The job ad could go something like "Work from home. Get paid to stuff envelopes!" :-)

Yeah, the service could be distributed so that the letters can be printed and mailed by any number of people.

Even better, you could distribute the mailing by geography to minimize shipping time. If it's close you could even have them deliver in person and save 44c. (Did you just invent a new postal system?)

Re: Dustin Curtis's new web app

#59

Somebody has to say it: In the year 2009 snail mail is grossly inadequate. 1. Does it prove anything? No. Sign something with a private key, that is proof. 2. Is it better for record keeping? No. Fires, floods, and rot are all enemies. Storing it digital allows one to replicate a lifetime of mail in 10 seconds. 3. Aesthetic? Only if you have a strong packrat or nesting instinct. 4. Cheaper? No. Not by a fucking longs…

The vast majority of people I know don't know about digital signatures. Most of the remainder can't use them, and are uncertain of how to verify them. The result is that they don't trust them. They all, however, understand and trust a piece of paper with a statement and signature.

Dustin's service doesn't solve that, but your comments are, quite simply, ahead of the game, and detached from current reality. That reality, as is always the way with reality, changing, but that change takes time.

EDIT: First paragraph re-written.

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