FarmLogs

Post by untog » Wed, Feb 11, 2015, 1:24 AM UTC

bootload wrote: post #41

kfcm wrote: post #35

The problem with FarmLogs is the same problem with anyone wanting to provide cloud-based services to agriculture: who owns the data? And specifically, FarmLogs Terms of Service clause 7 "Content" does not leave one feeling warm and fuzzy on this topic. This has become more of an issue with farmers over the past year, as they realize their data is a commodity just like what they raise--whether crops or livestock. How…

"... This has become more of an issue with farmers over the past year, as they realize their data is a commodity just like what they raise--whether crops or livestock. ..." What is stopping a local server/you own the data solution? Is it the cloud solution is the only one on offer or is it too hard to get the hardware/software to the gate?

Post by kordless » Wed, Feb 11, 2015, 1:27 AM UTC

untog wrote: post #51

bootload wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"... This has become more of an issue with farmers over the past year, as they realize their data is a commodity just like what they raise--whether crops or livestock. ..." What is stopping a local server/you own the data solution? Is it the cloud solution is the only one on offer or is it too hard to get the hardware/software to the gate?

Couldn't you say that about most tech solutions available today? Particular as a farmer I imagine you have little time to be screwing around with a local server that's prone to failure. A company looking after that for you is probably quite tempting.

Post by sammyo » Wed, Feb 11, 2015, 2:08 AM UTC

bootload wrote: post #41

kfcm wrote: post #35

The problem with FarmLogs is the same problem with anyone wanting to provide cloud-based services to agriculture: who owns the data? And specifically, FarmLogs Terms of Service clause 7 "Content" does not leave one feeling warm and fuzzy on this topic. This has become more of an issue with farmers over the past year, as they realize their data is a commodity just like what they raise--whether crops or livestock. How…

"... This has become more of an issue with farmers over the past year, as they realize their data is a commodity just like what they raise--whether crops or livestock. ..." What is stopping a local server/you own the data solution? Is it the cloud solution is the only one on offer or is it too hard to get the hardware/software to the gate?

Post by sjg007 » Wed, Feb 11, 2015, 2:20 AM UTC

coffeemug wrote: post #43

rsp1984 wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> For almost anything any team can do, you have to assume there will be five other teams, just as good or better, doing the same exact thing. That may be true for your typical cloud / SaaS / consumer internet / AirBnb for XYZ -kind of startup but there is many many fields in technology where killer teams are exceptionally rare. Most of these technology fields are not as sexy as building the next Dropbox but very ofte…

> Think about bio-tech, energy, nanotech, lasers, (space) flight, AI, etc. I'm not sure. I tend to assume the market is efficient and I found that far more often than not, the assumption proves correct. I don't know very much about most of the fields you mentioned, but think of space flight -- multiple space flight companies were founded around the same time as SpaceX (including John Carmack's now defunct space compa…

Post by codinghorror » Wed, Feb 11, 2015, 2:56 AM UTC

vollmarj wrote: post #44

kfcm wrote: post #35

The problem with FarmLogs is the same problem with anyone wanting to provide cloud-based services to agriculture: who owns the data? And specifically, FarmLogs Terms of Service clause 7 "Content" does not leave one feeling warm and fuzzy on this topic. This has become more of an issue with farmers over the past year, as they realize their data is a commodity just like what they raise--whether crops or livestock. How…

Great point. I'm one of the founders of FarmLogs and I can tell you we started this company to help make farmers (like my family) more successful. We don't have ulterior motives with regard to using farmer data. We help them use it to be more profitable and that is all. That said, it looks like we aren't doing a good enough job making it obvious in our ToS. That page has not been updated in a very long time. I am goi…