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Fasting triggers stem cell regeneration of damaged, old immune system (2014)

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Re: Fasting triggers stem cell regeneration of damaged, old immune system (2014)

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I recognize this as completely empirical evidence, so take it as that. I am a Mormon. As part of our religious observance, we fast for 2 meals on the first Sunday of every month. Also, I have fasted for the entire duration of the Muslim month of Ramadan twice now. For Mormons, food and drink is abstained starting Saturday night after dinner until Sunday night's dinner. By the time dinner rolls around Sunday night, I…

I'm a Mormon, too, and just wanted to point out a couple of things: > we fast for 2 meals on the first Sunday of every month. Not everyone does (pregnant or nursing women, or the sick, for example (edit: or people who just don't wanna)), and not everyone fasts for that period of time. Some people in different roles in the church (what non-Mormons might call a prophetic / visionary role) are encouraged to fast more of…

"what non-Mormons might call a prophetic / visionary role"

Isn't that the other way round? As a non-mormon I'm not about to call anyone prophetic/visionary.

Re: Fasting triggers stem cell regeneration of damaged, old immune system (2014)

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anecdotal evidence that people who fast simply are more healthier. If they are healthier, are they healthier because of fasting or simply from reduced caloric intake? Would someone who ate less (smaller meals, etc) be healthier than someone who fasts?

In caloric reduction research, there is indication that fasting can be similarly effective to caloric reduction, and may be easier to achieve for many people than a sustained calorie reduction (the amount of calorie reduction thought to be required for effectiveness is thought to be quite challenging to live with longterm...leading to feeling hungry pretty much all the time). Feeling really hungry one day a week may…

Calorie reduction makes you feel hungry until you get used to it.

Some people do not get hungry very often, and eat what is, for many people, very little, and are not hungry or lacking in energy.

Re: Fasting triggers stem cell regeneration of damaged, old immune system (2014)

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I'm a Mormon, too, and just wanted to point out a couple of things: > we fast for 2 meals on the first Sunday of every month. Not everyone does (pregnant or nursing women, or the sick, for example (edit: or people who just don't wanna)), and not everyone fasts for that period of time. Some people in different roles in the church (what non-Mormons might call a prophetic / visionary role) are encouraged to fast more of…

"what non-Mormons might call a prophetic / visionary role" Isn't that the other way round? As a non-mormon I'm not about to call anyone prophetic/visionary.

By "call," maybe you are inferring belief but I mean it with no belief and even plenty of skepticism implied.

Re: Fasting triggers stem cell regeneration of damaged, old immune system (2014)

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I recognize this as completely empirical evidence, so take it as that. I am a Mormon. As part of our religious observance, we fast for 2 meals on the first Sunday of every month. Also, I have fasted for the entire duration of the Muslim month of Ramadan twice now. For Mormons, food and drink is abstained starting Saturday night after dinner until Sunday night's dinner. By the time dinner rolls around Sunday night, I…

I am not Muslim, but I was born and raised in a Muslim country, and almost all my friends are Muslim. As you note, in the month of Ramadan, Muslims fast from dawn to dusk. Right before dawn, they eat seheri, and after dusk, they eat iftaar. During the month of Ramadan, no one seems to lose any weight, mainly because everyone seems to overcompensate during iftaar. Where I come from iftaar food is much oilier and richer than the food people usually eat, and also people tend to eat much more during iftaar than they would otherwise. My friends all regularly report gaining weight at the end of Ramadan. This is probably a cultural thing in my country of origin, but from what I have heard, things are same in other Muslim countries.

p.s. Do you mean that your evidence is anecdotal as opposed to empirical?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anecdotal_evidence http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empirical_evidence

Re: Fasting triggers stem cell regeneration of damaged, old immune system (2014)

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Another of my kind! I've been eating once a day for about 2 years now. This is obviously just anecdotal, but for me, I certainly feel more mentally alert during a fasted state; though I wouldn't say I've been sick any more / less than other times in my life. Friends think I'm quite bizarre for eating this way - but it just seems to work for me.

When do you eat that one meal of the day, and what does it typically consist of? I've been doing something similar over the last few months - a very light breakfast, a solid lunch, and then no dinner - but for me, doing this was with the purpose of losing weight - which did happen, at the rate of just under 1 kg a week.

I eat dinner only, quite a lot for dinner and I can graze for the rest of the night. I like going to bed with a full stomach. I don't really get hungry during the day, drink plenty of water and exercise at 3:30, then I'm hungry after that. I eat most stuff, but keep pretty low on sugars, starchy stuff and eat more fat than most.

Re: Fasting triggers stem cell regeneration of damaged, old immune system (2014)

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True, we need to be able to reproduce and confirm technically that fasting correctly is good for people. But you cannot simply ignore millenia of anecdotal evidence that people who fast simply are more healthier. I find it odd that it's now considered normal to stuff yourself all the time, when historically before maybe a century ago it was considered totally normal to not eat all the time(involuntarily or otherwise)…

What millennia of anecdotal evidence? I've heard claims like that before, but never seen the source of any of these claims. Really? In the past it was common not to eat, voluntarily? That seems hard to believe with how central food is to every culture I've ever been exposed to. In fact you are seen as odd if you choose NOT to partake when others are. If this is common knowledge to you it is certainly not for me, whic…

Aren't humans hunter-gathers and not having food for some periods of time has become part of who we are?

To me vasting makes total sense, whether it's religious, spiritual or otherwise.

Re: Fasting triggers stem cell regeneration of damaged, old immune system (2014)

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I recognize this as completely empirical evidence, so take it as that. I am a Mormon. As part of our religious observance, we fast for 2 meals on the first Sunday of every month. Also, I have fasted for the entire duration of the Muslim month of Ramadan twice now. For Mormons, food and drink is abstained starting Saturday night after dinner until Sunday night's dinner. By the time dinner rolls around Sunday night, I…

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Re: Fasting triggers stem cell regeneration of damaged, old immune system (2014)

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I've been eating once a day for the past 3.5 years and I'd read about the supposed immune system benefits. I've not had a cold/flu since then and I used to get 3-4 a year, so I'm sticking with it and I've become used to it anyway.

How many meals worth do you eat once? Do you eat the equivalent calories of three meals in one?

Not sure, I can eat quite a lot, I do a lot of exercise and I'm pretty lean. I just eat until I'm full, might have a few snacks later.

Re: Fasting triggers stem cell regeneration of damaged, old immune system (2014)

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post #34

I've been eating once a day for the past 3.5 years and I'd read about the supposed immune system benefits. I've not had a cold/flu since then and I used to get 3-4 a year, so I'm sticking with it and I've become used to it anyway.

What sorts of meals are you eating when doing it once a day? Are they big/small meals, or a mix of the two?

One big meal at dinner and a bit of grazing, although if I eat enough fat I don't feel like grazing later. I'm not completely militant about it, if someone asks me to meet up for lunch I'll go, but 95% of the time I stick with it. Plus it's nice to only have to make one decision about food a day and you save some $ from not buying lunch each day.
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