We're slowly coming to understand that antibiotics are very unkind to our gut flora and are a prime suspect in subsequent weight gain. Post-antibiotic diet could be a critical intervention to keep patients from falling into the grasp of obesity. A NY Times article earlier this year gives a background on how the rise of antibiotics has been accompanied by a rise in weight among animals and humans alike: http://www.nyt…
Mix of Bacteria in Gut May Depend More on Diet Than Genes
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#52Ask like this: Is it a mere coincidence that so many of poorest tropical and subtropical (hot and humid climate) populations traditionally use highly spiced food? Does it strictly a tradition of making a "poor" food taste hot, or there is a connection with bacteria population?
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You dispute that mental illness is a thing that exists?
It is known that the reliability of psychiatric diagnoses is non-existent https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosenhan_experiment Edit: It is ok to downvote if you disagree. But think what it says about you if you are downvoting facts .
Re: Mix of Bacteria in Gut May Depend More on Diet Than Genes
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
You dispute that mental illness is a thing that exists?
It is known that the reliability of psychiatric diagnoses is non-existent https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosenhan_experiment Edit: It is ok to downvote if you disagree. But think what it says about you if you are downvoting facts .
Re: Mix of Bacteria in Gut May Depend More on Diet Than Genes
#55Ask like this: Is it a mere coincidence that so many of poorest tropical and subtropical (hot and humid climate) populations traditionally use highly spiced food? Does it strictly a tradition of making a "poor" food taste hot, or there is a connection with bacteria population?
Spicy food was historically used to mask food that had gone off (e.g. meat in hot climates). I doubt that has been a relevant consideration for many decades though, so I'd attribute it to culture/tradition.
Spicing food has a preservative effect, which is probably a more important factor in the spread of the practice than masking food that has already gone off.
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#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
That links to an experiment that -proves- suggests it's possible to game psychiatric diagnosis, not that mental illness doesn't exist. edit: btw the way, I've been here for like 5 years now and I still don't know what flavor of Markdown is used here.
Linked from the FAQ at the bottom of the page: https://news.ycombinator.com/formatdoc
Re: Mix of Bacteria in Gut May Depend More on Diet Than Genes
#57Ask like this: Is it a mere coincidence that so many of poorest tropical and subtropical (hot and humid climate) populations traditionally use highly spiced food? Does it strictly a tradition of making a "poor" food taste hot, or there is a connection with bacteria population?
Tradition? Capsicums are a new world crop. They didn't make much of a dent in cuisines outside of the Americas until the 18th century.
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
It is known that the reliability of psychiatric diagnoses is non-existent https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosenhan_experiment Edit: It is ok to downvote if you disagree. But think what it says about you if you are downvoting facts .
That links to an experiment that -proves- suggests it's possible to game psychiatric diagnosis, not that mental illness doesn't exist. edit: btw the way, I've been here for like 5 years now and I still don't know what flavor of Markdown is used here.
btw, I don't see how could you explain the second part of the experiment where were no fake patients at all as "gaming". If a mere expectation of a fake patient screws the results so much; your methods are garbage. This and other counter-arguments are mentioned on the wiki-page.
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#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
It is known that the reliability of psychiatric diagnoses is non-existent https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosenhan_experiment Edit: It is ok to downvote if you disagree. But think what it says about you if you are downvoting facts .
> But think what it says about you if you are downvoting facts. You posted something from 40 years ago.
The link mentions related experiments with similar results as recent as 2008.
Anyway, judging by "The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders", Fifth Edition (DSM-5) (2013) there has been no paradigm shift in the last 40 years.
It seems DSM-5 is bad even by psychiatry's own standards. People use phrases like "false 'epidemics'" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DSM-5#Criticism
New DSM-5 Ignores Biology of Mental Illness http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-dsm5-ignores-b...
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> But think what it says about you if you are downvoting facts. You posted something from 40 years ago.
Do you think if the same experiment were to be repeated today; the results would be different? The link mentions related experiments with similar results as recent as 2008. Anyway, judging by "The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders", Fifth Edition (DSM-5) (2013) there has been no paradigm shift in the last 40 years. It seems DSM-5 is bad even by psychiatry's own standards. People use phrases like "…
Yes. Big institutions have closed. Smaller hospitals replaced them and most people get treated in the community.
For example: my county has a population of about 600,000 people. About 4,500 people are on the books of the local MH trust at any time. There are only about 150 inpatient beds at any time.
People only go into hospital if they are a danger to themselves or others - hearing a voice that says "empty" or "hollow" or "thud" is not something anyone would be hospitalised for.
To get a diagnosis of schizophrenia you have to match the symptoms over a six month period and be assessed by the same doctor during that time. one of the benefits of the DSM / ICD is that doctors now use a set of standards when diagnosing mental illness.
The paper suggests that this is only a problem with psychiatry. This is something you hear from lot of people. "No test exists to diagnose a psychiatric illness, thus psychiatry is a sham. Look, I can get diagnosed if I lie to doctors!" This ignores the fact that there are a bunch of physical-health diseases you can get diagnosed with if you lie to doctors, but we don't call those a sham. Your link even talks about that:
> Many defended psychiatry, arguing that as psychiatric diagnosis relies largely on the patient's report of their experiences, faking their presence no more demonstrates problems with psychiatric diagnosis than lying about other medical symptoms. In this vein, psychiatrist Robert Spitzer quoted Kety in a 1975 criticism of Rosenhan's study :[5]
>If I were to drink a quart of blood and, concealing what I had done, come to the emergency room of any hospital vomiting blood, the behavior of the staff would be quite predictable. If they labeled and treated me as having a bleeding peptic ulcer, I doubt that I could argue convincingly that medical science does not know how to diagnose that condition.
Your link mentions RD Laing in the lead. RD Laing is now thoroughly discredited. (Although he did have some interesting ideas). You should read some of his books.
> Many defended psychiatry, arguing that as psychiatric diagnosis relies largely on the patient's report of their experiences, faking their presence no more demonstrates problems with psychiatric diagnosis than lying about other medical symptoms. In this vein, psychiatrist Robert Spitzer quoted Kety in a 1975 criticism of Rosenhan's study :[5] If I were to drink a quart of blood and, concealing what I had done, come to the emergency room of any hospital vomiting blood, the behavior of the staff would be quite predictable. If they labeled and treated me as having a bleeding peptic ulcer, I doubt that I could argue convincingly that medical science does not know how to diagnose that condition.
> The link mentions related experiments with similar results as recent as 2008
No it does not.
There's a probable hoax from someone who can't provide any evidence, from 2004; and a totally different "experiment" (tv show) from 2008 where doctors were not allowed to interact with patients. You'd get similar results if the patients had physical health ailments.