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Re: Peter Thiel Planning to Live 120 Years

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Post by zarriak » Sun, Dec 21, 2014, 10:20 PM UTC

revelation wrote: post #41

zarriak wrote: post #13

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He has based his decision off of a cure for cancer coming sooner than aging mitigation. It is just a choice between a possibly cancerous but healthier/stronger body later in life, or a lower chance of cancer but a higher chance of death from the risks associated with losing muscle mass. Although it is really just a preference, I find predicting one's cause of death and trying to choose the optimal health choices an i…

A cure for cancer? Have we all collectively forgotten what cancer actually is? The human body already incorporates multiple "cures" for cancer or you wouldn't go a year at the rate cells multiply. But then the nature of cancer is that eventually a random mutation will come along that can beat any given cure, just as a million monkeys will eventually type out Mozart.

I was generalizing cure to mean removal and preventative measure of cancerous cells. I don't think that most people who generalize these things to cure forget what cancer is.

Re: Peter Thiel Planning to Live 120 Years

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Post by letstryagain » Sun, Dec 21, 2014, 10:25 PM UTC

coldtea wrote: post #21

selmnoo wrote: post #8

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Moreover, people who say they don't eat sugar don't mean they'll never ever eat sugar in any amount. I don't eat sugar - but I'm okay with a desert once per month or something. I'm also willing to eat things which have minute amount of sugar on a regular basis.

Moreover, you have to eat some kind of sugar, or you'll die.

That's false, there are no essential sugars. You can live a completely normal life even if you manage to remove every single molecule of sugars from your diet.

Re: Peter Thiel Planning to Live 120 Years

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Post by aurora72 » Sun, Dec 21, 2014, 10:36 PM UTC

fivedogit wrote: post #31

I find the desire that anyone would be this obsessively preoccupied with the desire to live either forever or an extraordinarily long time unsettling, but what I don't get is why stop at 120 years? The scientific signs pointing to the idea that humanity will eventually be able to halt the aging process altogether are compelling: First, there are species of jellyfish and lobster (among others) that do not age. The mec…

You seem to oversimplify the processes. Laser eye surgery has its own complications. I have about 3 degrees myopia and avoid having any laser surgery.

Aging's got more to do with "telomeres" the ends of the chromosome molecules being shortened on each choromosome replication. I've read somewhere that some food such as the green tea helps with the health of the telomeres and that sounds like a more realistic way to extend life.

I'm surprised Thiel talks nothing about natural supplements and he relies only on what's called the Human Growth Hormone. As for cancer cure, it's already been found : Take a look at phkillscancer.com

Re: Peter Thiel Planning to Live 120 Years

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Post by coldtea » Mon, Dec 22, 2014, 4:59 AM UTC

zo1 wrote: post #40

coldtea wrote: post #19

Yeah, I wouldn't bet on it. For every guy attempting to "live forever" I see a guy scared as hell of death. That is, a person that has left the realm of the common living humans a long time ago. Brings to mind Michael Jackson, sleeping in an oxygen chamber and doing who knows what to avoid disease et al - and then dying in his fifties. Or Howard Hughes, the list is long. Of course death is kind of scary, but being sc…

>" For every guy attempting to "live forever" I see a guy scared as hell of death. That is, a person that has left the realm of the common living humans a long time ago. " I don't quite see what you're trying to say here. Are you saying that someone that is "scared as hell of death" is someone that's "left the realm of common living humans" (whatever that may mean)? Maybe you're implying that most living humans are n…

>Maybe you're implying that most living humans are not afraid of death?

No, I'm implying that most living humans are not scared shitless of death to the point of planning 24/7 of how to avoid it, and mostly go on with their lives.

>He obviously values living forever/longer more than he does "living fully" as you put it. You simply stating the opposite opinion says nothing of the merits of his.

And vice versa. Isn't it obvious?

>Are you saying he can't use his money how he wishes?

I'm even more generally saying that having money and using them as one wishes is not the be all of civilization. That is some uses of money are worse than others, and people living in the same society have every right to criticize them.

The same way I'd criticize someone blowing millions in a party with models and cocaine.