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Neal Stephenson Joins Magic Leap

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Re: Neal Stephenson Joins Magic Leap

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Give you a reason for what? You're all acting like this company owes you an explanation of what it does.

They're selling something. If they want people to hand over cash, it might be practical to tell us what it is.

They're not selling anything yet. They don't you to hand over cash yet.

And so it is more practical for them to tease and build interest.

Re: Neal Stephenson Joins Magic Leap

#52

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Give you a reason for what? You're all acting like this company owes you an explanation of what it does.

They're selling something. If they want people to hand over cash, it might be practical to tell us what it is.

As far as I know, they're not selling anything yet and they're not in a position to take your money.

Do you honestly not think that when they have something to sell they'll have a marketing strategy?

Re: Neal Stephenson Joins Magic Leap

#53
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I had no idea what the company does until I bailed from their site and read a comment here. Yes, I could have dug deeper, like the person posting that comment did (thanks), but damn, gimme a reason . And no, having $CELEBRITY in your company is not enough reason. Two utilitarian sentences on what your thing is, and then all the literate prose you can produce. But gimme those two sentences.

Give you a reason for what? You're all acting like this company owes you an explanation of what it does.

You're not insightful, you're just a jerk.

If they're going to talk about how Neal is a member, and how they're changing the world, say something about it, don't just keep babbling. There is a floating whale and grand assertions without any immediate indication of what they do. You're damned right they owe people something about their company, when they have an "About Us" link on the page.

Re: Neal Stephenson Joins Magic Leap

#54
post #50

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Give you a reason for what? You're all acting like this company owes you an explanation of what it does.

Actually it's the other way around, a company that doesn't give me those two sentences is acting like I owe them my time. My feedback, and similar feedback from others, is not a complaint, it's feedback . Or, as someone else once said, "treasure your bugs."

> a company that doesn't give me those two sentences is acting like I owe them my time.

Have a word with yourself!

Re: Neal Stephenson Joins Magic Leap

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post #51

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They're selling something. If they want people to hand over cash, it might be practical to tell us what it is.

They're not selling anything yet. They don't you to hand over cash yet. And so it is more practical for them to tease and build interest.

Neither of which they do. The website is incredibly ostentatious, and offers no hints of what the company is trying to achieve. If you want build interest, drop the over the type hype machine and explain what the hell you're doing.

Re: Neal Stephenson Joins Magic Leap

#56
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The hype for me is tempered pretty heavily by what happened to Clang. I'm still very curious what Magic Leap is all about though.

What/who is Clang (apart from the compiler)?

A sword fighting video game Stephenson kickstarted for $526k and failed to deliver anything playable on. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/260688528/clang

Re: Neal Stephenson Joins Magic Leap

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One of the things that's interesting to me about that quote is the phrase "optical table." I think that there's a presumption (that I've shared) that Magic Leap is trying to make AR goggles or glasses. But, as has been extensively commented upon in the past, that's just crazy. We're just barely at the point of doing semi-decent VR (Oculus Rift) and just barely at the point of doing semi-decent wearable heads-up displ…

I think you should read this as "what they are doing in the lab." An "optical table" is to optical technologies as a solderless breadboard is to electronics. Basically, it's a big, stable platform with lots of threaded holes of a standard size and pitch for attaching lasers, mirrors, etc. Most have some kind of pneumatic isolation or damping to keep vibrations from being transmitted from the floor. Things like interf…

This got lost between my brain and my previous message, but yes, I agree, that's the most likely explanation.

But I mention the "they're trying to build like the equivalent of the early table-based Microsoft Surface (before that meant a tablet), but pseudo-holographic instead" idea just because it's so unbelievable to me that stand-alone goggles can possibly deliver what they're claiming.

Re: Neal Stephenson Joins Magic Leap

#58

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Give you a reason for what? You're all acting like this company owes you an explanation of what it does.

You're not insightful, you're just a jerk. If they're going to talk about how Neal is a member, and how they're changing the world, say something about it, don't just keep babbling. There is a floating whale and grand assertions without any immediate indication of what they do. You're damned right they owe people something about their company, when they have an "About Us" link on the page.

> you're just a jerk

I'm not the one who traded discourse for insults.

> You're damned right they owe people something about their company

Have you given something to them? Where does this entitlement come from?

Re: Neal Stephenson Joins Magic Leap

#59

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Give you a reason for what? You're all acting like this company owes you an explanation of what it does.

They're selling something. If they want people to hand over cash, it might be practical to tell us what it is.

I don't think they are selling anything right now, so they don't need to be saying much yet.

Re: Neal Stephenson Joins Magic Leap

#60
post #11
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Even after "Clang"?

Clang just couldn't raise nearly the budget it needed... Neal Stephenson had a whole blog post about how it turns out that just because you're Neal Stephenson doesn't mean people will give you money to make a sword fighting video game.

I thought the entire point of Kickstarter was to absorb the failure-to-acquire-enough-funding risk?

If Clang failed because of a lack of budget, then the failure was on the part of the project owners to set their funding threshold appropriately.

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