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Re: Stack Exchange for Emacs

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Post by wtbob » Mon, Dec 15, 2014, 7:50 PM UTC

tuhdo wrote: post #46

wtbob wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Emacs certainly is not just a text editor. I know. But it was written as just a text editor—but an extensible one, and so it has grown to be a lot more. Which is really pretty awesome.

> But it was written as just a text editor No it's not. It is really a big REPL optimized for text processing. You compare Emacs to the like of Python, not just some random editor. Unlike other editors that have an optional extension language, if you remove Emacs Lisp, effective you remove Emacs. Even file opening is written in Emacs Lisp.

Dude, I get what you're saying, but you're like a guy who comments on a Facebook picture of a newborn with 'The reason you think he's cute is purely evolutionary.'

Yes, of course emacs is a big REPL optimised text processing. But it's optimised for text processing because…it started out as a text editor.

The whole point of what I wrote is that emacs started out as a simple text editor (yes, I'm aware that its origin was as text editing macros for TECO) and due to its extensibility it can and has become so much more.

Really, I think you got way too hung up on the word 'just.'

We both love emacs. We both love having a fully-extensible text editing environment.

Re: Stack Exchange for Emacs

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Post by klibertp » Mon, Dec 15, 2014, 10:29 PM UTC

giovannibajo1 wrote: post #47

klibertp wrote: post #43

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> is a paradigm shift [...] very hard to replicate Well, that's true, and Atom deserves recognition for replicating it... http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/EmacsXWidgets

Well, that's the basic technological point, then you need the commands to make it useful for writing code at production speed, and not just a gimmick.

Yes, I was being obviously unfair here, sorry for this.

Re: Stack Exchange for Emacs

#53

Post by tuhdo » Tue, Dec 16, 2014, 4:30 AM UTC

wtbob wrote: post #51

tuhdo wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But it was written as just a text editor No it's not. It is really a big REPL optimized for text processing. You compare Emacs to the like of Python, not just some random editor. Unlike other editors that have an optional extension language, if you remove Emacs Lisp, effective you remove Emacs. Even file opening is written in Emacs Lisp.

Dude, I get what you're saying, but you're like a guy who comments on a Facebook picture of a newborn with 'The reason you think he's cute is purely evolutionary.' Yes, of course emacs is a big REPL optimised text processing. But it's optimised for text processing because…it started out as a text editor. The whole point of what I wrote is that emacs started out as a simple text editor (yes, I'm aware that its origin…

Fair enough :)

I just wanted to clarify in case someone read your comments and have a wrong impression that Emacs is a text editor like Vim. Nothing more, nothing less.