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Swedish Police Raid the Pirate Bay, Site Offline

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Re: Swedish Police Raid the Pirate Bay, Site Offline

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I'm pretty sure you can actually download the magnet links as an archive, which shouldn't be too big either.

You can download "an archive" that has all of the magnet links at the time of the creation of the archive. This is not helpful for finding new content. Most importantly downloading a 9 gig archive of magnet links is not a workable system for average users; Bittorrent is only as good as the number of peers in the swarm.

I actually made a magnet link archive a year and something back ( http://www.karelbilek.com/piratebay/ ), mostly as an experiment

Only the magnets and names - 76 MB; all the magnets + descriptions + comments - 631 MB

It's not that workable for any particular usage (other then statistics I guess) and I never upgraded it since then. There were some attempts by other people to regularly archive TPB (and semi-mirror sites like torrentz.eu and bitsnoop were "mirroring it" by reposting its torrents until the very end) but I am not sure if somebody actually dumped it online regularly in an archive

Re: Swedish Police Raid the Pirate Bay, Site Offline

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Honestly, I think the pirate bay getting busted would be a good thing, as it would probably lead to the creation of more distributed, robust filesharing platforms. The actual bulk data distribution is already quite P2P; the only remaining centralized part is the part that distributes the magnet hashes.

Fully decentralized P2P networks are probably older than bittorrent (Gnutella, eMule, and their similar clones). The fact is people don't want 100% decentralized P2P network; people want the fakes and the viruses removed and so on.

Sure, then just have trusted third parties (such as TPB) sign the torrents. It would be pretty hard to shutdown someone signing hashes from an unknown location.

Re: Swedish Police Raid the Pirate Bay, Site Offline

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So....what happened to the "raid-proof" server array they were talking about in September? ( https://torrentfreak.com/the-pirate-bay-runs-on-21-raid-proo... )

I'm imagining a Daemon (as in the Daniel Suarez book) like system that gets paid by web advertising companies in Bitcoin, and automatically spawns it's servers on cloud providers who accept payment in Bitcoin. One or more hot backups on a single VM would silently wait for the live system to go down, then respawn itself and switch over the DNS. Namecoin could be used in place of, or augmenting, traditional domain name…

I think you will find this interesting then: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Agents

Re: Swedish Police Raid the Pirate Bay, Site Offline

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I thought file sharing was recognized as a religion in Sweden.

Yes it is, kopimism is a recognized religion. But it is a minority religion treated quite badly. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missionary_Church_of_Kopimism

They should file with the UN for religious persecution.

Re: Swedish Police Raid the Pirate Bay, Site Offline

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It might be that a blockchain is the way to go. Bitcoin lets you store 80 bytes with each transaction. Maybe that isn't enough for a magnet link and description, but you could use multiple transactions. Maybe there is more optimal blockchain design though. Ideally you'd want a way of validating the content as well.

Or just host the site in the Tor network.

A hidden service is still centralised though, right? Given the current chasing of The Pirate Bay, I'd expect this hidden service to get the same scrutiny as The Silk Road.

My take on The Silk Road was that whilst it was quite possibly bad operational practice that took it down, it could have yielded to traffic analysis. I'd expect the same fate of Tor Pirate Bay.

Re: Swedish Police Raid the Pirate Bay, Site Offline

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fully decentralized P2P networks are probably older than bittorrent (Gnutella, eMule, and their similar clones). The fact is people don't want 100% decentralized P2P network; people want the fakes and the viruses removed and so on.

Sure, then just have trusted third parties (such as TPB) sign the torrents. It would be pretty hard to shutdown someone signing hashes from an unknown location.

In a fully decentralized environment, you would need to somehow know who to trust and make some karma/feedback in a decentralized way.

Given that PGP's web of trust never really caught on, I am not sure if this would work.

But maybe it would and I am just too pesimistic.

Re: Swedish Police Raid the Pirate Bay, Site Offline

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Is Pirate Bay & file sharing really that big an issue among the general public in Sweden?

No, not really. The somewhat associated Pirate Party used to be a big thing here, but then the party was hijacked by a new leader who mostly seemed to care about LGBT issues. Said leader just resigned last week, and the Swedish Pirate Party is now in a reboot phase.

SJWs infiltrating every single group on earth instead of voicing their opinions in groups related to their cause.
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