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Re: Get Visual Studio Community 2013 for Free

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Yeah all this licensing mumbo-jumbo is what made me drop .NET from my stack and this is what's going to keep me from coming back.

Have you ever looked into GPL? It's a tad longer than this.

Well, that is bound not to be the binding legal document here, there must be quite a long contract that actually defines the terms. Nothing to do with Microsoft necessarily, that's just how lawyers are.

Re: Get Visual Studio Community 2013 for Free

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The 250 users / $1 million revenue thing is a bit weird. Any tech company with more than 10 employees probably has upwards of $1 million/year in revenue. The salary bill alone will be pushing that quite quickly. There seems to be a huge disparity between 250 PCs and $1 million annual revenue. If you had 250 PCs with less than $1 million annual revenue you'd be paying each employee less than $4000 a year.

Or you could just be losing a lot of money!

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Re: Get Visual Studio Community 2013 for Free

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Another bloatware from MS :) Seriously... I crawls even on Windows... which you need to buy! ;)

I haven't realized hackernews makes comments even harder to read once they get enough downvotes. Thanks for writing the lowest rated comment I've seen so far :D

Re: Get Visual Studio Community 2013 for Free

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This is a surprising move, won't it result in a large drop in their MSDN subscriber base?

I may be wrong here, but as far as I can tell, the only reason to maintain an MSDN subscription for the purposes of Visual Studio (assuming you're eligible to use Visual Studio Community 2013) is if you want the features in editions beyond Professional, you want to be on the bleeding edge, or you want the peripheral perks of subscribing.

Personally I think it's a fantastic decision, I'm just surprised Microsoft is actually doing it. Hopefully they will be timely in releasing a Community edition for future versions of Visual Studio.

Also, this move is pretty great for startups. I think it also puts BizSpark in a better position. Most early stage startups will no longer have to jump through hoops trying to get into BizSpark, nor prematurely start the clock ticking on that until they're ready.

One of my major peeves with BizSpark has been the requirement that your company's public-facing site be more than just a "Coming Soon" page. While I can see the reasoning, it's kind of annoying when you haven't launched yet, you'd prefer to focus on your product, and you want to make said site using Visual Studio anyways.

Re: Get Visual Studio Community 2013 for Free

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The 250 users / $1 million revenue thing is a bit weird. Any tech company with more than 10 employees probably has upwards of $1 million/year in revenue. The salary bill alone will be pushing that quite quickly. There seems to be a huge disparity between 250 PCs and $1 million annual revenue. If you had 250 PCs with less than $1 million annual revenue you'd be paying each employee less than $4000 a year.

Or you could just be losing a lot of money!

That's why the license said "revenue" and not "profit", just to make sure you need to pay for it, even if your company play some weird tax tricks and has minimal or no profit each year.
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