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Re: San Francisco system font replacement for Yosemite

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I might not be in the majority, but I actually like the new system font Helvetica Neue. I am a huge fan of it and on a Retina Display it makes so much sense. Understandably those who do not have the luxury of a Retina Display, I can understand the frustration, but having said that, I think the whole system font change thing has been blown out of proportion. Even though I like Helvetica Neue, I really dig the new San…

The trend of using ultrathin fonts everywhere will be short-lived and date interfaces quickly. It's a trend inspired totally by the mere fact that high dpi displays can render them without pixelated artifacts, and not because they make sense for design or readability on a fundamental level. Thin weight type has uses in good design, but the way it's being applied ad nauseum today is a gimmick.

This reminds me of Computer Modern (the companion default font for TeX) and what is wrong with it. It's even a reasonable explanation of why it is that way - new technology.

Re: San Francisco system font replacement for Yosemite

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But very time I open my Air , I think "oh god what have they done".

Why? I open my MacBook and think "the menu font is badly aliased, yuck" whereas the Mac Pro at work on Mavericks is still a joy to read. And trying to work out where a file is within Xcode is still as simple as right-clicking on the titlebar of the window (like all windows within Mac OS) but on Yosemite, how the heck do I do that????? The titlebar has gone!

I'm on Yosemite with the latest XCode, and all I do is right click on the title bar, as you say, and it gives me the full path to the file ..

Re: San Francisco system font replacement for Yosemite

#54

I was actually saddened when I saw people starting with their patches forcing Lucida back in OS X 10.10. Helvetica was one of the things that made the iPhone so great. Helvetica is neutral, timeless and easy to read. It's the perfect user interface font, especially the UI-optimized version OS X 10.10 is using. As always, people just hate change. That said, San Fransisco is a cool font, it just looks horrible as a com…

"Helvetica is neutral, timeless and easy to read."

Not according to typographers. :)

http://gizmodo.com/designers-explain-why-apples-new-os-x-typ...

Re: San Francisco system font replacement for Yosemite

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There is a lot more to Yosemite than just a font change. 1. Calendar/Contacts are cleaned up further from what they used to be. 2. The little green button no longer leaves you wondering what it does, it simply full screens now on a single monitor 3. There seems to be better consistency across many different applications when it comes to look and feel, and all of the partial see-through/blurriness actually feels prett…

Issue 2 you mention is an issue for me. If I am in Safari or Xcode and click that green blob, I get a full screen window. Now, what if I want to use Calculator to calculate something related to the webpage or code I am viewing? I use cmd-space to open Spotlight and type "calculator" and press Enter. Now, I get a calculator but on an entirely different desktop because fullscreen apps and non-fullscreen apps cannot sha…

> Now, what if I want to use Calculator to calculate something related to the webpage or code I am viewing

Just type your equation straight into Spotlight and it'll give you the result on-the-fly. Also works for unit and currency conversions.

Re: San Francisco system font replacement for Yosemite

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Issue 2 you mention is an issue for me. If I am in Safari or Xcode and click that green blob, I get a full screen window. Now, what if I want to use Calculator to calculate something related to the webpage or code I am viewing? I use cmd-space to open Spotlight and type "calculator" and press Enter. Now, I get a calculator but on an entirely different desktop because fullscreen apps and non-fullscreen apps cannot sha…

> Now, what if I want to use Calculator to calculate something related to the webpage or code I am viewing Just type your equation straight into Spotlight and it'll give you the result on-the-fly. Also works for unit and currency conversions.

Ah good plan. My main complaint is the breaking of "normal" window functionality though, not specifically access to calculator - that was an example.

But great idea nonetheless!

Re: San Francisco system font replacement for Yosemite

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why? I open my MacBook and think "the menu font is badly aliased, yuck" whereas the Mac Pro at work on Mavericks is still a joy to read. And trying to work out where a file is within Xcode is still as simple as right-clicking on the titlebar of the window (like all windows within Mac OS) but on Yosemite, how the heck do I do that????? The titlebar has gone!

I'm on Yosemite with the latest XCode, and all I do is right click on the title bar, as you say, and it gives me the full path to the file ..

Where though? The jumpbar does the same thing (sometimes - it is buggy). But where on the titlebar do I click to get the "file proxy icon" shortcut?

Re: San Francisco system font replacement for Yosemite

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm on Yosemite with the latest XCode, and all I do is right click on the title bar, as you say, and it gives me the full path to the file ..

Where though? The jumpbar does the same thing (sometimes - it is buggy). But where on the titlebar do I click to get the "file proxy icon" shortcut?

On the window title/filename? Works for me ..

Re: San Francisco system font replacement for Yosemite

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where though? The jumpbar does the same thing (sometimes - it is buggy). But where on the titlebar do I click to get the "file proxy icon" shortcut?

On the window title/filename? Works for me ..

Do you have a screenshot? Because mine looks very similar to the URL below, where as you see there is no part of the titlebar that has the filename on it....

http://i.imgur.com/BrbI3Tt.png

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