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WireEdit – A Full Stack WYSIWYG Editor for Network Packets

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Re: WireEdit – A Full Stack WYSIWYG Editor for Network Packets

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Post by lucb1e »

Arkanosis wrote: post #20
swartkrans wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>It's a nice concept but I'll start using it as soon as someone creates a FOSS clone. I like FOSS, and am grateful for the work open source engineers put into software, and I have also contributed, but this attitude right here where you wont even consider something because it's closed source? What's the point of that? Why shouldn't an engineer be paid? It's very difficult to capture value with open source software. P…

Can't tell for others, but I'm very reluctant to spend time learning a tool that I know from the beginning I won't be able to debug / improve later and that the owner may change in a way that doesn't fit me or even stop to support. The only non-FOSS tools I've been using on a daily basis for years are Gmail and Google Calendar. I can't tell I'm really happy with how they have evolved out of my control. Oh, and Google…

Upvotes are not visible so let me just comment to say that this is exactly how I feel about open source software. It's not about the money.

Re: WireEdit – A Full Stack WYSIWYG Editor for Network Packets

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Post by wirefloss »

lucb1e wrote: post #49

I was very excited, it's a project I've been wanting to do for years but never had the time (or better yet, something I've wanted to use, but it never existed). Then I got to the downloads. Great, an Ubuntu version... which is just the Windows version bundled with WINE except they modified WINE... and in the README they warn that it really only works with Ubuntu x32 and that you shouldn't have WINE already installed.…

You can install from any folder, not only your home folder. Most package installations under Linux do require sudo privileges, so WireEdit is in no way unique. You password is SAFE. Really. The README is trying to be pretty upfront about what it is, and how it works. See also my replies to other questions here.

Re: WireEdit – A Full Stack WYSIWYG Editor for Network Packets

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Post by swartkrans »

lucb1e wrote: post #51
Arkanosis wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can't tell for others, but I'm very reluctant to spend time learning a tool that I know from the beginning I won't be able to debug / improve later and that the owner may change in a way that doesn't fit me or even stop to support. The only non-FOSS tools I've been using on a daily basis for years are Gmail and Google Calendar. I can't tell I'm really happy with how they have evolved out of my control. Oh, and Google…

Upvotes are not visible so let me just comment to say that this is exactly how I feel about open source software. It's not about the money.

Of course it's about the money. Where does the engineer working on the open source software get money from to work on the project?

Re: WireEdit – A Full Stack WYSIWYG Editor for Network Packets

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Post by lucb1e »

swartkrans wrote: post #54
lucb1e wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Upvotes are not visible so let me just comment to say that this is exactly how I feel about open source software. It's not about the money.

Of course it's about the money. Where does the engineer working on the open source software get money from to work on the project?

Misunderstanding here (bad wording on my part): what i meant by "it's not about the money" is that the advantage of open source is not that it's free, I'm happy to pay, but in the other values which the person i replied to mentioned.

Re: WireEdit – A Full Stack WYSIWYG Editor for Network Packets

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Post by csmajorfive »

swartkrans wrote: post #47
Arkanosis wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can't tell for others, but I'm very reluctant to spend time learning a tool that I know from the beginning I won't be able to debug / improve later and that the owner may change in a way that doesn't fit me or even stop to support. The only non-FOSS tools I've been using on a daily basis for years are Gmail and Google Calendar. I can't tell I'm really happy with how they have evolved out of my control. Oh, and Google…

How do you charge for something that can be freely redistributed? How can I charge you $50 for software that you can then take and give to everyone for free because of the open source license? Where are people going to get that software from? From me where it costs $50 or from you where they can get it for free? The GNU website says you can charge for distribution, but that was written back when people distributed CD…

Thank you for your reasonable perspective. This open source criticism seems particularly endemic for developer tools that aren't backed by a cloud service. There are very, very few companies that have made money with open source tools in this space and they typically require huge VC investments to get to a place where the product is good enough to warrant large enterprise support contracts and professional services.

Re: WireEdit – A Full Stack WYSIWYG Editor for Network Packets

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Post by MichaelGG »

lucb1e wrote: post #49

I was very excited, it's a project I've been wanting to do for years but never had the time (or better yet, something I've wanted to use, but it never existed). Then I got to the downloads. Great, an Ubuntu version... which is just the Windows version bundled with WINE except they modified WINE... and in the README they warn that it really only works with Ubuntu x32 and that you shouldn't have WINE already installed.…

x32 or x86? Cause X32 is the 32-bit-on-x86_64 ABI so you can get the benefit of the AMD64 instruction set and registers but without the overhead of 64-bit pointers. (Of course you can't access beyond 4GB RAM.)

X32 is faster at some things, but it doesn't seem to have much support. But it would be a good idea for many things, like desktop apps that don't need a lot of memory.

Re: WireEdit – A Full Stack WYSIWYG Editor for Network Packets

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Post by smutticus »

I'm the author of the packet editor Hexcap. http://www.hexcap.org

Hexcap is an ncurses packet hex editor and generator, and it's open source. It uses the dpkt library for packet encap and decap, as well as dnet and pypcap for capturing and transmission. It's probably not as fancy as WireEdit, but then again the intended audience is different. I started writing Hexcap, in ESR's terms, to scratch my own itch.

I'm a grad student which means Hexcap goes for long periods without updates. But when breaks roll around I usually find time to hack on it. If this kind of thing interests you, I'd be interested in hearing about your opinion of Hexcap. Typical FOSS disclaimers applying, YMMV.

Re: WireEdit – A Full Stack WYSIWYG Editor for Network Packets

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Post by wirefloss »

wnevets wrote: post #58

Google chrome didnt like this download at all, telling me its a virus.

It's not. I use Chrome all the time. It may be the zip file which spooks it. The zip contains an .msi file + a folder with pcap examples. If you wait a couple of hours, I'll put a separate .msi for download.
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