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Programming by Voice: Staying Productive Without Harming Yourself

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Re: Programming by Voice: Staying Productive Without Harming Yourself

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FWIW switching to the Dvorak layout was the best thing I ever did. Not only did my fingers stop hurting, I could actually type faster than I had before. And it only took a weekend to make the transition.

Also, choose a keyboard that works for you. Different people have different opinions; the one I use was a $3 no-name one, but it felt right.

Re: Programming by Voice: Staying Productive Without Harming Yourself

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yet another data point here... After using the ergonomically suicidal Apple Magic Mouse and Apple wireless keyboard, I developed RSI after just a couple of months. I having my wrists and forearms massaged every night until the tightness went away (for the night), and I switched to a mechanical keyboard, a nice-sized gaming mouse, and started mousing with my left hand at work. I haven't had any RSI symptoms for over 2…

That was something I taught myself at college (late high-school for those in the US) - I knew my career would be computer based, so forced myself to become natural using either hand for mousing. I switch every half an hour or so, and whilst my arms and shoulders aren't great, it's better than when I forget and do a full day on one hand. Also have a mech at home, and seriously thinking about buying one out of my own c…

> Also have a mech at home, and seriously thinking about buying one out of my own cash for work (no way they're going to pay £100 for a keyboard...).

Work should pay £100 for a keyboard, if it's necessary for you to work healthily and safely. They spend more — often much more — than that on (for example) disabled toilets, lifts, ramps, chairs, manual handling training, first aid training, ...

See http://www.hse.gov.uk/msd/faq-dse.htm

> "My wrist aches when I use my mouse. How can I prevent this?" > ... "try a different size or shape of mouse. Your employer should help by providing a range of such equipment."

(Also, subtract VAT and it's only £80 anyway.)

Re: Programming by Voice: Staying Productive Without Harming Yourself

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post #51

FWIW switching to the Dvorak layout was the best thing I ever did. Not only did my fingers stop hurting, I could actually type faster than I had before. And it only took a weekend to make the transition. Also, choose a keyboard that works for you. Different people have different opinions; the one I use was a $3 no-name one, but it felt right.

I also recommend Dvorak. I doubt it solves all problems, but I feel it significantly increases the time I can spend typing compared to with Qwerty, much beyond what I do for 99% of the year.

Easily overlooked is using the shift, control and alt keys correctly. It's left-control + backspace, right-shift + 1, right-alt+F4 (to pick examples that work on Qwerty and Dvorak). Otherwise you're still stretching.

Re: Programming by Voice: Staying Productive Without Harming Yourself

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Voice recognition can work well for English text. For writing code, it's certainly better than nothing, but on the awkward side; I found a zero force keyboard works better: http://specialneedscomputers.ca/index.php?l=product_detail&p...

A USB touchpad is a zero force mouse substitute, though a little annoying for positioning; I ended up using one for clicking in combination with an optical mouse for positioning. Has anyone yet released a mouse with zero force clicks? Microsoft released one with zero force for half a dozen useless functions, annoyingly, everything except left and right clicks.

Re: Programming by Voice: Staying Productive Without Harming Yourself

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EVERYONE who suffers from RSI should read this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1269951 I read it about a year ago, and it was probably the single most important article I've read in my entire life. Some background: I've been using computers since I was a little kid. Used to play videos games a whole ton. Around the age of 15, I started having severe RSI-related pain in my hands. Even after I stopped gaming, I c…

I read a similar comment on Slashdot.org about 11 years ago when I was suffering from terrible wrist pain, hand numbness, etc. Here is additional information on the Sarno mind body approach to curing RSI:

http://www.rsi.deas.harvard.edu/mb_what_is.html

I am 11 years free of any wrist pain. I use a cheap crappy keyboard that came with an old Dell computer and a normal mouse to program about 60 hours per week.

Re: Programming by Voice: Staying Productive Without Harming Yourself

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Has anyone tried to add gestures, with a Leap Motion for example, to their development process? A handful of subtle motions could be used to automate some repetitive tasks.

Leap Motion isn't nearly as accurate as they show in their videos. I have one and it's completely useless for anything more than a simple "swipe left" gesture.

I concur. I got a Leap Motion, hoping to use it to replace some or all mouse function. It's a fun toy but not much else.

Re: Programming by Voice: Staying Productive Without Harming Yourself

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post #28

EVERYONE who suffers from RSI should read this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1269951 I read it about a year ago, and it was probably the single most important article I've read in my entire life. Some background: I've been using computers since I was a little kid. Used to play videos games a whole ton. Around the age of 15, I started having severe RSI-related pain in my hands. Even after I stopped gaming, I c…

There was an article recently posted on HN. It's about itches and neurology, really long and slightly disgusting, still recommend it:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8359390

[...] but perhaps also the hundreds of thousands of people in the United States alone who suffer from conditions like chronic back pain, fibromyalgia, chronic pelvic pain, tinnitus, temporomandibular joint disorder, or repetitive strain injury, where, typically, no amount of imaging, nerve testing, or surgery manages to uncover an anatomical explanation. [...]

Re: Programming by Voice: Staying Productive Without Harming Yourself

#59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yet another data point here... After using the ergonomically suicidal Apple Magic Mouse and Apple wireless keyboard, I developed RSI after just a couple of months. I having my wrists and forearms massaged every night until the tightness went away (for the night), and I switched to a mechanical keyboard, a nice-sized gaming mouse, and started mousing with my left hand at work. I haven't had any RSI symptoms for over 2…

Yes, Apple keyboards are ergonomical disasters.

Can you explain why? It would be beneficial to understand.

Re: Programming by Voice: Staying Productive Without Harming Yourself

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post #28

EVERYONE who suffers from RSI should read this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1269951 I read it about a year ago, and it was probably the single most important article I've read in my entire life. Some background: I've been using computers since I was a little kid. Used to play videos games a whole ton. Around the age of 15, I started having severe RSI-related pain in my hands. Even after I stopped gaming, I c…

As a counterpoint, I also stumbled on to this same post at the same time as I was experiencing "RSI" (severe eye fatigue from computer use)

I bought the book immediately, which is odd for me because I am extremely skeptical but it is a pretty good indication of the dire situation I found myself in.

Within the first 20 pages I knew I had been had. The author is really proud of himself for being the only health care professional to finally connect the dots, and he takes at least the first half of the book telling as much.

Looking back at the blog post and even this comment it is weird that no one actually acknowledges the "process" or provides any sort of detail on their own situation and what really worked for them.

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