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The USSR used a nuclear charge to stop a gas well fire in 1966

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Re: The USSR used a nuclear charge to stop a gas well fire in 1966

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Only two were actually used to kill people. Most of the rest were preparations for it.

Other way around. We had the Trinity test, Hiroshima & Nagasaki, and then we set off the rest. Unless you meant "preparations" for killing more people with our nuclear weapons, in which case you may be correct.

(It's completely obvious that's what he meant.)

Re: The USSR used a nuclear charge to stop a gas well fire in 1966

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My "favorite" Soviet use of nuclear explosions was for deep seismic exploration: http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=deep+seismic+sounding+wi...

I can't find any reliable sources, so treat this as my own speculation. I heard that there were programs for a while in two big countries with acronyms starting with US that aimed into exploration of causing earthquakes/tsunamis that would hit across the word by using multiple underground nukes and constructive interference.

There was an American program towards the end of the second world war aiming at causing tsunamis to weaken Japan: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsunami_bomb

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Plus wouldn't there be some concern about the ocean floor collapsing due to the blast?

Collapsing into what?

Around the time of the Deepwater Horizon accident, I recall that there was some speculation about the ocean floor being fragile and breaking, causing a vast release of oil and methane.

So the answer to "into what" would be to collapse into the oil-filled voids within the floor.

It's just something I heard on the news when this was news. Maybe it was complete nonsense. Sorry if I offended anyone with my comment!

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the odd thing about the Herzog film though is that it includes a narration that casts the images into a kind of scifi story unrelated to Kuwait/Iraq, rather than a documentary. The filming is amazing though.

Herzog has this concept of the ecstatic truth, which means his documentaries are rarely as simple as they can seem; it's almost a third form of film. I'm an unabashed fanboy, but in any event, Lessons Of Darkness is highly, highly recommended.

> ... it's almost a third form of film.

What are the other two?

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Herzog has this concept of the ecstatic truth, which means his documentaries are rarely as simple as they can seem; it's almost a third form of film. I'm an unabashed fanboy, but in any event, Lessons Of Darkness is highly, highly recommended.

> ... it's almost a third form of film. What are the other two?

I'm presuming "documentary" and "narrative".

Re: The USSR used a nuclear charge to stop a gas well fire in 1966

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... as well as once in 1968, twice in 1972, and once in 1981. 0.o The USSR had a whole program to investigate peaceful nuclear explosions (PNEs), called Nuclear Explosions for the National Economy. [1] Sadly, some of these experiments went rather wrong, unexpectedly releasing lots of radioactive nasty near populated areas. The US also did this sort of thing from 1961 to 1973, and the program was cancelled in '77. [2]…

Here's a timelapse of every nuclear explosion since 1945. It really puts into perspective just how many nukes have gone off for purposes other than to kill people. It's amazing that only two were used for violence. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLCF7vPanrY According to the video, people have detonated 2053 nukes, and America has the dubious distinction of having detonated over 1000.

I appreciate your precise wording. Makes me wonder how many deaths were nonetheless caused by these non-wartime detonations.

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> ... it's almost a third form of film. What are the other two?

I'm presuming "documentary" and "narrative".

Yes, exactly. I'm sure that there are more forms, but those are the two that Herzog traffics in.

Re: The USSR used a nuclear charge to stop a gas well fire in 1966

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When I saw the date and the location of Uzbekistan, I thought it was related to the huge earthquake (7.5) of 1966 in Tashkent, Uzbekistan. But it looks like the bomb was exploded in September but the earthquake was in April.

More about this earthquake: http://www.tashkent-info.narod.ru/en/e_ze.htm

Re: The USSR used a nuclear charge to stop a gas well fire in 1966

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Collapsing into what?

Around the time of the Deepwater Horizon accident, I recall that there was some speculation about the ocean floor being fragile and breaking, causing a vast release of oil and methane. So the answer to "into what" would be to collapse into the oil-filled voids within the floor. It's just something I heard on the news when this was news. Maybe it was complete nonsense. Sorry if I offended anyone with my comment!

There aren't any oil-filled voids within the ocean floor. Oil and gas is contained in pourous rock, but the oil-containing rock is mostly solid. In the Deepwater Horizon case, it was also more than five kilometers below the ocean floor, so in other words very far underground.

I have heard the same speculations you refer to in the news, but I think they instead refered to the topmost portion of the well being destroyed, creating cracks in the top of the shaft of the well and allowing oil to leak in all directions. I am not a geologist, so I don't know how plausible these worries were.

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