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Setting the Record Straight on Tor

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Re: Setting the Record Straight on Tor

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Post by opendais »

AnthonyMouse wrote: post #41
opendais wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Comcast did not respond to our inquiries but has mentioned a 180 day retention policy for IP-addresses in BitTorrent-related court documents. On some occasions cases have been dismissed because logs were no longer available, meaning that alleged infringers could not be identified. The 180 day policy is also mentioned in the Comcast Law Enforcement Handbook that leaked in 2007." https://torrentfreak.com/how-long-does…

> Comcast did not respond to our inquiries but has mentioned a 180 day retention policy for IP-addresses in BitTorrent-related court documents. That sounds like they keep the DHCP logs for that long, i.e. which subscriber's router was assigned a particular IP address at a particular time. That's a far cry from logging actual traffic.

My point is they are logging some things aren't very open about what exactly they log. They use ambiguous wording.

Re: Setting the Record Straight on Tor

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Post by opendais »

freehunter wrote: post #43
opendais wrote: post #4

> Comcast doesn’t monitor our customer’s browser software, web surfing or online history. I'd take this as evidence they monitor every connection that isn't over http ... which happens to include VPNs and Tor. Otherwise, they would have just said "We do not monitor your internet connection except to gather aggregate statistics for billing purposes".

What about "online history" indicates that they only mean HTTP? Online encompasses a lot more than the World Wide Web.

> Comcast doesn’t monitor our customer’s browser software, web surfing or online history.

That implies in relation to browser/web surfing. In relation to that, it implies browser history to me.

Re: Setting the Record Straight on Tor

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Post by opendais »

daveloyall wrote: post #40
imacomputer2 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Comcast doesn’t monitor our customer’s browser software, web surfing or online history." That would imply that they don't even have a log of what requests are passing through their system. I find that extremely hard to believe.

Why would a road keep a copy of cars that traverse it? The 'requests' aren't addressed to Comcast, they are addressed to... well, news.ycombinator.com for example.

May I suggest you research that analogy?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_light_control_and_coord...

http://www.state.nj.us/transportation/business/videolog/

"The New Jersey Department of Transportation (NJDOT) maintains traffic cameras on many interstates and other New Jersey State highway systems. The cameras are mounted on poles and record traffic conditions, traffic delays, incidents and weather conditions. They are monitored around the clock at NJDOT's Statewide Traffic Management Center.

In the Department's video camera system, video is recorded and retained at NJDOT for seven (7) days. "

You were saying?

Re: Setting the Record Straight on Tor

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Post by eli »

fsk141 wrote: post #49

I know it's a word vomit blast, but tried to post this comment on the page; I doubt it'll get approved or replied to... " ...educational and voluntary copyright program." -- volunteer, hum, afaik and from what I recall from seeing these in the past ; by clicking on any of the links in one of those emails, you are admitting guilt. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I take it that if you respond to these you admit tha…

You have badly misunderstood what the copyright program is and how it works. The ISP volunteered to participate, not the user. And they don't monitor traffic for violations, they accept notices of violations observered by outside content companies.

Re: Setting the Record Straight on Tor

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Post by polarix »

opendais wrote: post #17
polarix wrote: post #6

It's a very good sign that Comcast is posting this kind of correction. It indicates that they perceive a broad social consensus that supporting internet anonymity is a crucial responsibility of an ISP, and lends credence to the ongoing importance of net neutrality. It also, as a secondary effect, might incline us to look more favorably on Comcast's arguments regarding backbone capacity negotiations.

They didn't actually say they didn't monitor Tor tho. :/ That is why I'm kinda amused by the positive posts. They said they don't monitor people's browsers and http connections. TOR wouldn't look like that at all to them. Its a lie of omission. They clearly monitor Torrents, etc.

Even if the details weren't entirely consistent, the fact that they made any sort of statement at all is cause for optimism.

Re: Setting the Record Straight on Tor

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Post by daveloyall »

opendais wrote: post #53
daveloyall wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would a road keep a copy of cars that traverse it? The 'requests' aren't addressed to Comcast, they are addressed to... well, news.ycombinator.com for example.

May I suggest you research that analogy? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_light_control_and_coord... http://www.state.nj.us/transportation/business/videolog/ "The New Jersey Department of Transportation (NJDOT) maintains traffic cameras on many interstates and other New Jersey State highway systems. The cameras are mounted on poles and record traffic conditions, traffic delays, incidents and weather conditions. T…

s/would/should/ :/
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