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Steve Jobs Introduces the iPhone 6 and Apple Watch

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Re: Steve Jobs Introduces the iPhone 6 and Apple Watch

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Post by jeznav »

tolmasky wrote: post #10
jiggity wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for your kind words. It took me a long while before hitting that submit button. It's that moment when you're unsure if what you've written is any good.

I found myself actually wanting the watch reading this, which caught me off guard. Really well done.

I think I now know why. There was a TED talk by Simon Sinek regarding how Apple sells its products to its customers by making you believe why you should need one than without one.

http://www.ted.com/talks/simon_sinek_how_great_leaders_inspi...

The keynote didn't really sell me the watch. To me it was more like a 'me too' smartwatch but with several customizable options to set it apart from the competition. They should've stick with one model and iterate later like they always did.

But I agree, if the presentation was worded like this, I probably would've bought one in a whim and wouldn't think the heartbeat thing as gimmicky.

Re: Steve Jobs Introduces the iPhone 6 and Apple Watch

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Post by ntsb »

owenwil wrote: post #46

This was killed already once today and is back again? Steve was very explicit to Tim Cook and others in the Apple executive team that they should never ask "what would Steve do." Seems to be written by someone with little understanding of Apple today.

> they should never ask "what would Steve do."

Depends which Steve you are referring too, there still is, and always has been a very brilliant Steve at Apple.

Re: Steve Jobs Introduces the iPhone 6 and Apple Watch

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Post by arihant »

Maybe Jobs wanted to launch "The Sixty" and did not have a product deemed personalizable enough to do so in his time?

Where they could, they have iMac, Macbooks, Mac minis. So with OSX, they do have multiple options cause it fits. Each model is customizable into gazillion ways based on HDD, RAM, GPU and what have you. How many variations of Macbooks can you count which can be ordered directly from Apple store website? I bet you it is more than the Apple Watch.

What the author misses is - Apple thinks. It did with Jobs, and it is doing so without him. Apple did "The One" when they thought it suited. They did "The Sixty" when they thought it suited. Copying Apple is a job of other companies, not of Apple.

Re: Steve Jobs Introduces the iPhone 6 and Apple Watch

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Post by joeguilmette »

GuiA wrote: post #27
joeguilmette wrote: post #25

This article was horrible, in poor taste, and raises a litany of ridiculous points. That said, while I'm happy to see the iProduct naming convention die, I agree that including the logo in the product name is a bit much. There is the old story that the command key used to be an apple logo, but Steve had it removed as to not dilute the brand.

The Apple TV also has the logo in the name, although I guess it's a slightly lower visibility product.

Excellent point!

Re: Steve Jobs Introduces the iPhone 6 and Apple Watch

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Post by catshirt »

GuiA wrote: post #18

Hacker News: your premier source for Steve Jobs fan fiction. (laughs) Does the author really think that Steve Jobs would have ever said "When I open up a website on Safari, I don't have to strain my eyes anymore"? They're still selling 5S and 5C! Not even Asus would disparage their previous products like that. The rest of the piece is just as bad and devoid of substance. (Steve rolls in his grave)

my experience with the iPhone is that Apple doesn't give a shit about old iPhones.

Re: Steve Jobs Introduces the iPhone 6 and Apple Watch

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Post by judk »

aaronbrethorst wrote: post #17

Steve also claimed that Apple would never do a video iPod until the day it launched. You should read the entire article. Steve said a lot of stuff that he later (not so much recanted as entirely) ignored. http://www.wired.com/2010/02/steve-jobs/ When Mossberg in 2003 asked Jobs whether he planned to put video in an iPod, the CEO said he was turned off by the idea. “I’m not convinced people want to watch movies on a t…

He was right. People wanted video, but no one used it. Not till touchscreen smartphone screens made video work.

Re: Steve Jobs Introduces the iPhone 6 and Apple Watch

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Post by ZenoArrow »

tolmasky wrote: post #9
ZenoArrow wrote: post #4

It's a good attempt at a Jobs-esque keynote, enjoyed that aspect, but on the product side the only criticisms can be boiled down to... 1. There's too much choice (option of a larger phone screen from the 6+, and a variety of watch options). 2. Because of this choice, you have to do more thinking for yourself. I feel like it's sad that thinking for ourselves is seen as problematic. That diversity isn't something to be…

Its not about not thinking for yourself, its about avoiding unnecessary choice. Our lives our filled with enough real decisions without the need for inane and subtle product ones. Most people do not need to be worrying about the voltage of their electric toothbrush. Its not because they're brainwashed and hate diversity. With the iPhone I'm now forced to regret the decision either way. The iPhone 6+ is too big for my…

"Our lives our filled with enough real decisions without the need for inane and subtle product ones." Considering the length of time we spend with our gadgets it pays to spend a bit of time in those 'inane' decisions. However, if you're a light user and just want something that works you can always choose based on price. It's really not that hard.

"With the iPhone I'm now forced to regret the decision either way." But are you though? Let's imagine for a second that the iPhone 6+ didn't exist. Is the iPhone 6 enough of an upgrade for you to want it? The obvious upgrade path is iPhone 5 to iPhone 6, if you've never wanted a phablet then the iPhone 6+ is not for you. There, I made your decision for you.

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